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Post by kikosanchez on Aug 25, 2012 23:54:16 GMT -5
Sorry, I originally pointed toward the egg by saying "Anyway, if you are town and re-read my long post above you will see an easter egg that will show my "townness"" which I thought was pretty clear, but I'm assuming no one read that or took much notice at the time. Not to worry, the situation with the egg is in a bit of limbo right now. I deleted it thinking it was illegal but it turned out not to be. I'm waiting to see to what degree I can talk about what happened. I will just post tomorrow about it.
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10) AKA The kdogg Rule: There will be no sharing of role PMs inside the thread or outside for the purpose of disclosing your role to another player. This also goes for password sharing. Common sense should be used, no discussion of your roles, except between Mafia, outside the thread - EVER.
This means the physical PM sent by the ref to the player may not be shared - as in screen printed, cut and paste, linked, etc etc. No one other than the receiving player is allowed to see the actual PM sent by the ref.
This rule does not prevent players from posting - typing - that my pm said 'blah blah blah'. Players rather routinely post/type that 'My PM said I am a townie' and this is not considered a rule infraction.
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Unfortunately, rain rained out my race yesterday, so I had to celebrate in other, more traditional Irish - Italian American ways. Hence why I never made it back yesterday.
Kiko and Roo, what happened here the last 2 days? I came back and there was no discussion. It makes it really hard to figure out who is a townie and who is not if no one is talking, so here are my thoughts:
Both of you seem to be playing to get on the side with 2 votes instead of playing for a townie win. This is really only a good mafia strategy, and not a townie strategy, since even if your PM said townie, it does not help if the other voter's said mafia. In the end, even if you survive, you still lose.
Kiko, you have laid out your thoughts already, but roo still has not. Roo, your game has seemed to be solely about survival this entire game, and not about figuring out who is mafia and who is a townie. No offense, but as I laid out above, that is a mafia strategy. This is why I have voted for you on 3 days so far, but it has not gotten you to talk. In fact, you have had only 3 vote changes the entire game. The two this round from Kiko to me, and from me to null. And then in the second round, when you were on Kiko. Both changes happened with very little explanation and were prompted either by the inspector or thinking you were going to die if I moved to vote for you.
Based on that, I am moving my vote to you for now Roo. Not locking in, but my working theory is that you have been motivated by survival and survival leading to victory all game, willing to absorb a few shots, but by not responding, people have moved on. If you can come out and talk, I would be very willing to listen, but for now, Kiko seems to be searching and you seem to be still trying to hide.
Viking >>> Roo
Also, Fawn, I have 0 votes on me, since Roo went null. (although that may change shortly)
Post by kikosanchez on Aug 27, 2012 12:42:51 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't know for sure if her message would be exactly the same only with "townie" replaced with "mafia" so I'd be taking an unnecessary risk trying to fake it all. But she already notified me she always gives townies the same message every game, so that's why I think it's become a pretty moot point.
I really feel like I've analyzed as much as I could and nothing seems that clear. The only thing I never fleshed out was Roo's vote for me in day 4(?) when he triple stacked me. This is *not* definitively a town or mafia move, it is really just an odd play all around and so it doesn't signify much considering neither town or mafia would want to do this normally. The strange things is how Hakuna came out of the woodworks to suddenly post a long message concerning this and first and foremost clearing Roo's name.
Just an extra piece of analysis for everyone to think on or defend. In my own defense, I've had two opportunities in the past 2 rounds to simply make a vote and vote someone off, yet I haven't because I'm hoping letting things flesh out more will be better for us. Given that Fawn has set a ~30 hour time limit, I guess it's almost time to make our minds up lol.
Fwiw LD, I'll go ahead and sign up for the next round to get things started.
Fawn, I voted for roo in my last post. Sorry for the confusion.
Kiko, regarding you not voting for people to kill them, that was definitely a factor in my switching votes. After rereading the thread again today, I noticed a few things I did not the first time around when I voted for you as I mentioned in my last post. Add to that how the day has played out, and I have switched. I want to be up front in that my vote is not locked in. A lot of it will depend on roo's post, but as I explained, he is playing based on survival right now, and that is definitely a mafia strategy and not a townie strategy. Furthermore, it is the same strategy that MC and Hakuna were playing.
With regards to Hakuna defending him, This can be looked at a few ways. He was either framed or he was being hidden. I am looking at it right now as hidden, since the mafia usually come out and post a few names for various reasons, but usually, there is a lot more debate about whether someone is actually inspector or not. Add to that that Hakuna and roo are not the most experienced players and roo's lack or response at the time, and it adds up to protecting him this late in the game. However, I do not assign too many indicator points to that particular move.
The thing to always remember is that you can never trust a mafia member once they are outed. They will lie and twist to try and hide the other members as much as possible. When looking back, I try and focus mostly on people I clear mentally as townies. That's why I spend so much time thinking about who is a townie and not just who is mafia.
So I guess I am waiting for roo to post. Feel free to ask questions, but this is where I stand now.
Just got outta job 1 now on my way to job 2 first day but I hope you had a good birthday Viking.
Boom
Roo>>>Viking
Your, mafia. I won't be fooled by you again an iv got a real good feeling your the last one
Ask anyone im a terrible liar in this game when I'm mafia I'm long dead by now. Viking on the other hand is really good. REALLY good. Pretty much the reason I vote for him every day one. Townie or not it's important to stay on him. I voted for you a few times kiko because of your "next person below me" thing gave me an uneasy feeling that and it's m first game with you so I figure I throw you a vote. Viking though I feel has been playing I super safe all game and that's not the Viking iv grown to know and fear in this game. First few games I note how I am not a fan of his take over style of play but this time I don't feel like he has tried that at all so for breaking the mold I have come accustomed to playin with I believe he is our final mafia.
Proboards has been very buggy lately with new posts not showing up. WLViking in the future when this happens you can use the "Last 100 posts" button on the main page at the bottom.
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Nice. So the first time Roo takes a stand in this game is to call me a good liar, and vote to have me killed. And on top of that, no real theory. Just Viking can lie, I cant, so vote for Viking. It is the same crap I caught at the beginning of the last game I played and the same thing I caught in the start of this game.
Well Kiko, you asked for the deciding vote earlier in the round. My vote is now locked in for the reasons outlined in the previous posts. I am a townie. I voted for the mafia, picked all three in day 2 apparently, had the same instincts as SFA along the way, who has proven to be the inspector, and was willing to listen to your theories before switching my vote, instead of just switching to save my skin.
Ask any questions you have. I am willing to answer. If you vote for me, we lose. If you vote for roo, we win. Choice comes down to you.