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The lineup will be posted on the Google+ page ASAP!
What is that supposed to mean? Assuming it just means it'll get posted on there immediately after the official release, whenever that may be.....in other words, nothing.
Post by PosterNutbag on Feb 1, 2013 12:48:15 GMT -5
ASAP means nothing to me at this point. Neither does "soon". Only thing that will make me believe a lineup is coming is when I see hangout post some names.
I'd just love to see the math of how this thing can be profitable with the lineup you guys are talking about.
Problem Dog already laid out the equivalence of the predicted top 5 to the top 5 fromlast year and Macca is the only big step: DMB->Macca RHCP->Muse JW->MumSons SCI->TAB Wilco->Avetts
It's feasible. I am on the fence about Macca too, but I hope the rumor mill is legit.
Maybe this is the year Hangout makes its power move to overtake Bonnaroo as the "large festival which features a couple jambands" category. Bold flavors.
Bonnaroo has over twice the amount of artists on the bill and it has twice the possible capacity of Hangout (40k). But Hangout has a very high cash flow going into the surrounding area. Expensive condos (price raises every year) getting booked solid for 3-6 days on top of the ticket sales (the VIP, super VIP, and big kahuna packages for hangout is completely ridiculous in comparison to any festival that I have witnessed). This is a festival that seem like it is now being curated for semi-wealthy people to have a vacation with some music on the side. Bonnaroo was designed for music fans in mind only.
Just looking back and see some consistent but soft mentions of of Montreal. Anyone have any better info on this? I've been hoping for that circus on the beach since this festival started.
Post by CheesedickOrDie76 on Feb 1, 2013 13:21:08 GMT -5
I assume the prices are just a factor of business. If they can't expand the capacity, they have to increase margins and the only real way is raising prices. They can cut costs, but that would probably mean cutting into the vibe of the fest. I think the Hangout is going to test how high the tickets can go until they hit their ceiling.
I can't see DMB getting anywhere near what Macca gets. Macca is at least a million more, maybe 2. I'd bet Muse is a little more than RHCP, mostly cause RHCP was doing SO many dates last year, but I'd agree they are comparable. Mumford is likely a good deal more than Jack White.
Don't forget how much the hangout itself brings in for the weekend.
This is what I don't get about the GS people. Look, I hate when companies like sports franchises take advantage of a municipality, but the way the Gulf Shores people act sometimes (note: the people, not the pols), you'd think they don't want the $30M benefits. They could be a little more open to aiding the festival in generating more revenue (i.e. increasing their tax revenue).
I can't see DMB getting anywhere near what Macca gets. Macca is at least a million more, maybe 2. I'd bet Muse is a little more than RHCP, mostly cause RHCP was doing SO many dates last year, but I'd agree they are comparable. Mumford is likely a good deal more than Jack White.
I can't see DMB getting anywhere near what Macca gets. Macca is at least a million more, maybe 2. I'd bet Muse is a little more than RHCP, mostly cause RHCP was doing SO many dates last year, but I'd agree they are comparable. Mumford is likely a good deal more than Jack White.
I would be surprised if Muse was more than RHCP. Muse was 4th billed at Lolla in 2011, RHCP was 1st in 2012. Muse hasn't really spiked in popularity since then. I agree that Mumford is likely more expensive than Jack White by a good bit, but I was thinking the gap between RHCP and Muse would balance it out. No arguments on DMB vs. Macca.
Post by PosterNutbag on Feb 1, 2013 13:42:06 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with you man. We stayed in a hotel, and every morning the maid would knock on the door (around 9 am- we were asleep) then open the door, which would be chained. She did this every morning- disregarding the "dont worry about it- you dont have to clean the room" sign. She'd let the door slam and exhale loudly (one morning it was a muffled yell). I don't get it, we were making her job easier giving her one less room to clean.
People look down upon the fest, thinking we're hardcore wooks, but really Hangout is filled with custies and bros. Take the GS population down to 'roo or even worse, waka and they'd be praising the patrons of hangout. They're not used to seeing this kind of activity, and think that everyone in there is just spun beyond belief.
I say get involved in the money making. Buy some waters at Costco and slang' em for $1 outside the grounds, get a carton of cigs and sell em cheaper than the $7 ripoff they are inside. It is all really silly. Hotels sell out and each room is like $300-500/night. They're making profit margins for half a year in one weekend, I don't really see GS as such a gigantic vacation hub at any other time.
Post by PosterNutbag on Feb 1, 2013 13:45:49 GMT -5
Is KOL off the radar? They'd be cheaper than Muse and RHCP, especially after the little meltdown...they've been off the map for a while, might be a nice affordable big namer (even if they're not as relevant as they were in 2009)
Post by CheesedickOrDie76 on Feb 1, 2013 13:50:35 GMT -5
Two notes:
1)The GS area is more a short trip destination for regional people than it really is a vacation spot sans the major weekends like memorial and Labor Day. That brings out some Yankees, but otherwise it's a chill locale.
Post by problem dog on Feb 1, 2013 13:57:05 GMT -5
Jane's Addiction is at that Bottle Rock fest out in California, billed 5th behind the 4 headliners. The dates are May 9-12, so they would have time to get to the Gulf. Their price has probably dropped since they reformed, might be a cheaper possibility. They were apparently booked at Hangout in 2011, because some of the web banners that went up after the announcement had them listed. They were billed 4th between WSP and The Black Keys.
Does anyone know why people think that putting band requests on FB's wall does anything? Its the stupidest shiz to me. "please book _______! I will be so HAPPY!" I just don't get it. It's so late in the game, and I really don't think that Hangout cares if this person will be happy or not. It makes no sense. Then you get this chick "I cant wait to see which bands are lucky enough to be on the lineup" wtf is this nonsense? Also, asking for an almost identical lineup as last year. NO. DMB will not be returning. Why do people post shiz like this? What do they think they are going to gain from this??
Had to rant. Maybe you feel the same way I do, maybe I am a moron.
Had to comment on this. I am totally with you. I'm particularly irritated by the ones asking for Lumineers. Hey A-holes that probably love the Grammies, you could have seen them last year front and center if you were paying attention and got up early. You snooze you lose.
I think Furthur is more likely than Jane's Addiction. We could be totally wrong about TAB. We just assumed that was what we were going to get because we initially heard Phish gonna be there but then TAB was added to summer camp and narrowed the chances of getting phish down to nothing.
Does anyone know why people think that putting band requests on FB's wall does anything? Its the stupidest shiz to me. "please book _______! I will be so HAPPY!" I just don't get it. It's so late in the game, and I really don't think that Hangout cares if this person will be happy or not. It makes no sense. Then you get this chick "I cant wait to see which bands are lucky enough to be on the lineup" wtf is this nonsense? Also, asking for an almost identical lineup as last year. NO. DMB will not be returning. Why do people post shiz like this? What do they think they are going to gain from this??
Had to rant. Maybe you feel the same way I do, maybe I am a moron.
Had to comment on this. I am totally with you. I'm particularly irritated by the ones asking for Lumineers. Hey A-holes that probably love the Grammies, you could have seen them last year front and center if you were paying attention and got up early. You snooze you lose.
I slept through the Lumineers. I regret it. Oh well.
Man that Napa Valley list is sick!! I would love to see Black Keys, Zac Brown and Primus all at the same fest. Lot of good undercards id like to see to.
I think Furthur is more likely than Jane's Addiction. We could be totally wrong about TAB. We just assumed that was what we were going to get because we initially heard Phish gonna be there but then TAB was added to summer camp and narrowed the chances of getting phish down to nothing.
Maybe, but then there isn't a "rock" headliner in the top 3.
Had to comment on this. I am totally with you. I'm particularly irritated by the ones asking for Lumineers. Hey A-holes that probably love the Grammies, you could have seen them last year front and center if you were paying attention and got up early. You snooze you lose.
I slept through the Lumineers. I regret it. Oh well.
Worked their show at the masquerade in Atlanta. You missed nothing. 0-10 most boring shit ever. Every time he would get some energy built up in the crowd and have a little momentum he would stop and go "you feel that? Lets just stop and feel this for a moment" so terrible.
Post by PosterNutbag on Feb 1, 2013 14:21:19 GMT -5
Janes Addiction or Furthur would be dope. Or both and have mum as 4th slot! I can't see tem dragging it out past Tuesday. Pablooo where you at with the intel my man!
I think Furthur is more likely than Jane's Addiction. We could be totally wrong about TAB. We just assumed that was what we were going to get because we initially heard Phish gonna be there but then TAB was added to summer camp and narrowed the chances of getting phish down to nothing.
Maybe, but then there isn't a "rock" headliner in the top 3.
Maybe Macca is complete horseshit and it's Muse | MumSons | Furthur lol
Had to comment on this. I am totally with you. I'm particularly irritated by the ones asking for Lumineers. Hey A-holes that probably love the Grammies, you could have seen them last year front and center if you were paying attention and got up early. You snooze you lose.
I slept through the Lumineers. I regret it. Oh well.
It was definitely a fun show. It was very empty, I was right up front. They played some Bob Dylan and generally had a good time on stage. The crowd was so small and relatively subdued that the energy couldn't get going, so we went and listened to the rest of the set in the hammocks next to the overpriced bar.