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Sigh. Are you a Giants fan, or just a self-hating Jets fan?
Holmes just had 9 catches for 150 yards, so maybe you should've picked a different week to say that he's "maybe" talented. Dustin Keller is a top-tier receiving TE, and he's also the team's #2 receiver. He's barely played all season due to injury, but will be back this week. The Jets in the past 2 seasons have brought in 3 WR's via the draft, those players aren't going to instantly become studs. They need to develop, but Jeremy Kerley seems already there as far as slot receivers go.
Anyone definitely writing the Jets off is kidding themselves in a season where the best teams don't even look that good (outside of San Fran).
And you're clearly not a Jets fan if you think that a) Sanchez has never had offensive weapons and b) think he never had a good pass blocking line until "just recently."
This post reeks of "outside looking in" ignorance from somebody regurgitating Skip Bayless' unabashed biased analysis.
Okay a few things. 1) I'm a Jets fan. 2) I'm talking about this year and their lack of talent. 3) What has Holmes done in a Jets uniform besides last game?
I've seen Holmes drop at least five passes this season, he's barely been open, not to mention he's a whiny head case. One good game is not going to change my opinion on that. I agree Kerley looks promising but I'm not going to get extremely excited after a two catch game.
Receivers just haven't been open this year. I've seen every play of the Jets season so far and can probably count on one hand how many times a receiver gained clear separation from a defender.
Keller is a good pass catching tight end but don't act like he's Rob Gronkowski or Vernon Davis because he's nowhere near that caliber He's a top 12-15 tight end in the league at best.
And I'm not even going to mention the abysmal running game.
Bottom line, the argument I was trying to make is that Tannenbaum did absolutely nothing to upgrade the offense this, which needs desperate help, except get Tim Tebow and can we please agree that has been a bust so far? Clearly this offense needs work and anyone who can't admit that after watching these past two games is just in denial.
And just to note, there are few people I hate in this world more than Skip Bayless.
*cracks knuckles*
I will readily admit I don't know everything about every team in the NFL, but I do know everything there is to know about the Jets, and you sir....need a lesson (my apologies to everyone in this thread who does not give a flying rat's c*ck about the Jets).
2) I'm talking about this year and their lack of talent.
This is asinine, because you can't talk about a dearth of talent without talking about the past couple of years where this supposed dearth of talent grew.
3) What has Holmes done in a Jets uniform besides last game?[.quote]
Things like this make me think you're not a Jets fan. He won four games single-handedly in 2010. But yeah, he's never done anything like a touchdown in OT against the Browns (all him, btw), a quick slant he took 60 yards against the Lions in OT to set up the game winning FG, the Houston Texans ridick-kick-ulous over-the-shoulder game-winning TD on my birthday? None of that stuff.
I've seen Holmes drop at least five passes this season
No you haven't, he has two drops, three if you want to count the pass he dropped then got gifted a phantom PI call by a scab ref. And if you cite ESPN for your reasoning behind his 5 drops (I have no idea if they even keep that as a stat), but it's 2 that counted, without a doubt.
Completely inaccurate. The problem wasn't getting open outside of the 4th quarter of the Steelers game, after Sanchez bounced passes off defenders for 3 quarters and Holmes got frustrated (not ideal behavior, but understandable).
I agree Kerley looks promising but I'm not going to get extremely excited after a two catch game.
Uh, the dude is on pace for over 980 yards and 10 Td's, plus elite punt returning. Do I think he'll end up with those number? No, but a 700-800 yard and 7 TD season from your #3 WR would be awesome. Kerley is legit.
Receivers just haven't been open this year. I've seen every play of the Jets season so far and can probably count on one hand how many times a receiver gained clear separation from a defender.
Also not true. Receivers have been open a lot, Sanchez either does look to them, or forces it to someone else. He's been so consumed by not being a game manager who dumps it off he's stopped dumping it off entirely. Schilens had an easy TD on Sunday and Mark overthrew him by a mile. Same thing with Holmes in Pitt. The plays are there, but someone screws up more often than not.
Keller is a good pass catching tight end but don't act like he's Rob Gronkowski or Vernon Davis because he's nowhere near that caliber He's a top 12-15 tight end in the league at best.
2011 stats for TE's: 6th in yards and 9th in receptions. He's top 10 suckaaaaaa.
Bottom line, the argument I was trying to make is that Tannenbaum did absolutely nothing to upgrade the offense this, which needs desperate help, except get Tim Tebow and can we please agree that has been a bust so far? Clearly this offense needs work and anyone who can't admit that after watching these past two games is just in denial.
This is an asinine comment. Just....no, dude.
Tannenbaum got rid of Hunter and replaced him with a younger player who is a much better run blocker (and who has not given up a sack year), he changed offensive coordinators, he drafted Stephen Hill, he signed Chaz Schilens, but in reality he NEEDED to not do anything big. He has young players at every position, they need to let them develop. Every self-hating Jets fan loves to blow the Giants' front office, but you know what makes the Giants FO's job easier? Their fans aren't impatient sugar-high 12 year olds who want things NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW. Ramses Barden and Andre Brown were both drafted in 2009, did NOTHING for 3 full seasons, and are now tearing it up as Jets fans cry with the "why not us!?" bullsh*t. Because fans like you can't let a team grow young players like good franchises do and you want pro bowl caliber players at every position.
Obviously the offense needs work, so does Green Bay's, so does New Orleans, so does the Pats. Every team needs work, there are 3 undefeated teams in the entire NFL and it's week 3, there is a sh*tload of flawed teams right now in the NFL, so to end the Jets' season because they're flawed (even though they're in first place heading into a home game where the fans can 10000000% make the refs crumble like a sand castle) is just insane to me.
Post by Longtime and Frequent Poster on Sept 25, 2012 8:31:55 GMT -5
That video is missing the non holding call against Clay Matthews that allowed Wilson to scramble for a first down on 3rd in the first half. Two plays later was the long touchdown to Tate to put them up 7-0. I don't think it's a stretch to say Seattle could've easily been shut out, depending on what would've happened on the ensuing 3rd and 14 had the holding been called. And not that it matters nearly as much as the others, but the K-Ball was on the field for the Packers 2 point conversion.
Also, this is BY FAR the worst I've felt after a Packer game. Worse than that douche Elway upsetting them in the Super Bowl when I was 9, the 4th and 26 game against the Eagles, Favre's brutal final game as a Packer against the Giants in the '08 NFC Championship, etc. etc. I'm not going to watch for a while, I don't think. Not because I think "boycotting" is going to do anything, but because you start to sort of reevaluate your life when you're 24 years old and throwing a tantrum like a four year old in your parents living room because of a game. Silver lining I guess.
I thought that after the Jets lost to the Steelers in the AFC Title game by not scoring at first and goal from the 2 or whatever. Then Week 1 the next year I was back in the saddle.
But this is a unique loss in that your team didn't actually lose the game so much as had it taken away from them.
I thought that after the Jets lost to the Steelers in the AFC Title game by not scoring at first and goal from the 2 or whatever. Then Week 1 the next year I was back in the saddle.
But this is a unique loss in that your team didn't actually lose the game so much as had it taken away from them.
At least you had 7+ months in between meaningful games. I'm sure that helped.
Moreover, people are missing the problem with that final call. Look, the possession issue isn't the problem. It's debatable whether Jennings had control, since that's not established until they hit the ground. Yeah, he got his hands on it in the air, but Tate got his hands in there before they hit the ground. That's a toss-up either way. The issue was Tate's offensive pass interference - he absolutely pushed GB's corner to the ground before he jumped. THAT is what people should be upset about. The tie-up with Jennings...not so much.
Agreed, it was so blatant and right in front of a ref. He was watching the pretty spiral coming his way instead of watching the scrum like he's supposed to.
I agree with Juggs. And after watching the whole game, maybe if the Packers came to play the first 30 minutes, the last play would not have mattered. The replacements are bad, no question. They looked foolish at the end of the game, but the really bad call was missing Tate's Offensive Pass Interference.
One of the Patriots said it best. You have to take the game out of the ref's hands. Hell, that is true in every sport with real refs or fake refs (but especially the latter). The Packers sucked for 30-40 minutes of the game, and then turned it on. Then they let Seattle get close enough for the pass. The Packers should have played the whole game and this would be a much smaller issue.
One of the Patriots said it best. You have to take the game out of the ref's hands. Hell, that is true in every sport with real refs or fake refs (but especially the latter). The Packers sucked for 30-40 minutes of the game, and then turned it on. Then they let Seattle get close enough for the pass. The Packers should have played the whole game and this would be a much smaller issue.
See, I could agree with this, but the way the refs are injecting themselves into the game (typical games are getting like 20 penalties called, which is insane) it's basically impossible. Players have been programmed to play the game a certain way, but the scab refs' interpretation of the rules differs from the way these guys have been conditioned to do things like hand fighting (between WRs and CBs), but now those situations are being called differently. That's where the issue lies, guys have had the "unspoken rules" agreement with the real refs for decades, and these scab refs don't care.
Oh, and the NFL will not soften because people will come back, even if this goes on all season. TV contracts are all locked in long term, which is the big money maker. The Coaches Union is already kissing up to the NFL office after seeing what happened to the players and refs.
There is no incentive for them to soften even if everyone says it is a joke since there is no financial impact.
One of the Patriots said it best. You have to take the game out of the ref's hands. Hell, that is true in every sport with real refs or fake refs (but especially the latter). The Packers sucked for 30-40 minutes of the game, and then turned it on. Then they let Seattle get close enough for the pass. The Packers should have played the whole game and this would be a much smaller issue.
See, I could agree with this, but the way the refs are injecting themselves into the game (typical games are getting like 20 penalties called, which is insane) it's basically impossible. Players have been programmed to play the game a certain way, but the scab refs' interpretation of the rules differs from the way these guys have been conditioned to do things like hand fighting (between WRs and CBs), but now those situations are being called differently. That's where the issue lies, guys have had the "unspoken rules" agreement with the real refs for decades, and these scab refs don't care.
I am going to partially disagree here. The players have a level of experience with the real refs that they do not have for the fake ones. They know who will let them get away with what and who wont. Belicheck did an interview before the season where he talked about watching tape on refs and having a file on each of them. There is now no familiarity so people are pushing limits, but the limits are not being consistently enforced. Either way, it is a bad situation.
See, I could agree with this, but the way the refs are injecting themselves into the game (typical games are getting like 20 penalties called, which is insane) it's basically impossible. Players have been programmed to play the game a certain way, but the scab refs' interpretation of the rules differs from the way these guys have been conditioned to do things like hand fighting (between WRs and CBs), but now those situations are being called differently. That's where the issue lies, guys have had the "unspoken rules" agreement with the real refs for decades, and these scab refs don't care.
I am going to partially disagree here. The players have a level of experience with the real refs that they do not have for the fake ones. They know who will let them get away with what and who wont. Belicheck did an interview before the season where he talked about watching tape on refs and having a file on each of them. There is now no familiarity so people are pushing limits, but the limits are not being consistently enforced. Either way, it is a bad situation.
The thing is, the refs PI calls are typically right, if you go by the word of the rule. Sometimes they're wayyyyy off (like last night), or they miss a call (again, like last night0, but they aren't calling PI calls that are wrong every time. But the real refs knew that if you start calling every time a DB puts his hand on a WR downfield the game would last 7 hours and people would fall asleep.
The new refs are calling things to the letter of the law, and that has never been the things have worked int he NFL. The same principle applies to holding calls, there are holding calls at the LOS every play, but if the refs started calling every one the games would derail 2 minutes in every week.
I agree with Juggs. And after watching the whole game, maybe if the Packers came to play the first 30 minutes, the last play would not have mattered. The replacements are bad, no question. They looked foolish at the end of the game, but the really bad call was missing Tate's Offensive Pass Interference.
One of the Patriots said it best. You have to take the game out of the ref's hands. Hell, that is true in every sport with real refs or fake refs (but especially the latter). The Packers sucked for 30-40 minutes of the game, and then turned it on. Then they let Seattle get close enough for the pass. The Packers should have played the whole game and this would be a much smaller issue.
While I don't entirely agree with this (close games are going to happen, even if both teams are playing superbly, so the refs might/will come in to play from time to time), it highlights my biggest problem with last night - a complete dismissal of the Seahawks defense. I've heard "if the Packers showed up to play" a number of times, and it's just not true. They showed up, they just got abused by a much more physically intense and overwhelming defense. They didn't get sacked 8 times in the first half because they didn't show up, they got sacked 8 times because Seattle did an outstanding job.
So did the Packers defense, no one's giving them credit for squat, either.
The national narrative right now is dealing with the refs, anything that takes away from that spotlight is ignored until further notice.
I'm just happy this took the spotlight off of Tebow, so maybe the scab refs aren't so bad after all.
Post by Longtime and Frequent Poster on Sept 25, 2012 10:39:57 GMT -5
Is the Chancellor PI call the one where Gruden thought he timed it perfectly? If so, I'm almost positive he got there a split second before the ball. Maybe I'm thinking of a different play. Either way, all of these were definitively worse calls:
1) Saying Tate possessed the ball (literally no one in the world can convince me this was even questionable. At no point did Tate look like he possessed the ball) 2) PI call on Shields against Rice 3) Not calling holding on whomever was "blocking" Clay Matthews on the 3rd down Wilson scramble that eventually lead to Seattle's first score. 4) Tate pushing away Shields 5) Roughing the passer on Walden 6) The first time all year offsetting personal fouls called when Browner (I think?) cheap shotted Jennings and then retaliated to Jennings' retaliation by tackling him after the whistle.
These are the obvious ones. Of course Seattle had weird calls go against them, I'm not denying that. But to say the refs didn't directly hand them that game in the fourth quarter is 100% incorrect. I don't care if you're the biggest Seahawks homer in the world.
As for the actual players, Seattle's defense is fantastic. That first half was a nightmare, but when McCarthy calls about 3 running plays of course Clemons et al are going to have their ears pinned back. I thought Green Bay did an excellent job in the second half of taking what the defense was giving them--basically running, quick throws/screens, etc. By far the best half for Rodgers all year. Such a shame it had to go to waste.
Edit: I'm aware the Tate pushoff was the most obvious of the above, but you just never really see those calls on last second Hail Marys unfortunately. I think that's more of a systemic issue than anything.
Is the Chancellor PI call the one where Gruden thought he timed it perfectly? If so, I'm almost positive he got there a split second before the ball. Maybe I'm thinking of a different play. Either way, all of these were definitively worse calls:
1) Saying Tate possessed the ball (literally no one in the world can convince me this was even questionable. At no point did Tate look like he possessed the ball) 2) PI call on Shields against Rice 3) Not calling holding on whomever was "blocking" Clay Matthews on the 3rd down Wilson scramble that eventually lead to Seattle's first score. 4) Tate pushing away Shields 5) Roughing the passer on Walden 6) The first time all year offsetting personal fouls called when Browner (I think?) cheap shotted Jennings and then retaliated to Jennings' retaliation by tackling him after the whistle.
These are the obvious ones. Of course Seattle had weird calls go against them, I'm not denying that. But to say the refs didn't directly hand them that game in the fourth quarter is 100% incorrect. I don't care if you're the biggest Seahawks homer in the world.
As for the actual players, Seattle's defense is fantastic. That first half was a nightmare, but when McCarthy calls about 3 running plays of course Clemons et al are going to have their ears pinned back. I thought Green Bay did an excellent job in the second half of taking what the defense was giving them--basically running, quick throws/screens, etc. By far the best half for Rodgers all year. Such a shame it had to go to waste.
Edit: I'm aware the Tate pushoff was the most obvious of the above, but you just never really see those calls on last second Hail Marys unfortunately. I think that's more of a systemic issue than anything.
You generally don't see guys do what Tate did because they are at least mildly concerned it'd be a penalty.
I liked the analysis that the NFL, as a commodity, has an inelastic demand. Its very true, to an extent. Personally, as a Saints fan, I want Goodell to be hated by more than just our fans. He might be able to ruin the image of the NFL in less than a season. But to truly hurt the NFL, this kind of BS will have to continue for almost the entire season before people actually stop watching.
I agree that people will keep watching and that it will be a while before the owners start seeing their revenue decrease. But ideally, some of them should care, deep down inside, about the quality of the product they're putting out there and the history of the league they (in some cases literally) inherited.
There's no doubt in my mind that some of these calls are determining the outcomes of games. That's just wrong. The players know it. The coaches know it. The fans know it. It's time for the owners to figure it out.
I agree that people will keep watching and that it will be a while before the owners start seeing their revenue decrease. But ideally, some of them should care, deep down inside, about the quality of the product they're putting out there and the history of the league they (in some cases literally) inherited.
There's no doubt in my mind that some of these calls are determining the outcomes of games. That's just wrong. The players know it. The coaches know it. The fans know it. It's time for the owners to figure it out.
It has become an ego thing at this point. They want to win against ALL the unions, and they have the pockets and ability to do it. There is no competition and there is a 100 year history for some of these teams, so it is a captive fan base.
The NFL is not going to fold and the owners know it. Meanwhile, the real refs are losing money and fast. They have no leverage, since the NFL just came out and said they back the replacements even after this past week. There is only one way this thing is going to end at this point. Its not like the games stopped like it did when the players locked out. The refs have 0 leverage. They just don't know it or are pretending to not notice.
As I said earlier, and was confirmed watching Sportcenter, when they asked the coaches why they are not coming out more strongly and why they are toeing the line, they said they are already concerned about replacement coaches.
Post by Longtime and Frequent Poster on Sept 25, 2012 12:04:43 GMT -5
One positive about this for me so far--Scott Walker's twitter account calling for the NFL to bring back the real officials. I'd be laughing at the irony if I wasn't so depressed.
Okay a few things. 1) I'm a Jets fan. 2) I'm talking about this year and their lack of talent. 3) What has Holmes done in a Jets uniform besides last game?
I've seen Holmes drop at least five passes this season, he's barely been open, not to mention he's a whiny head case. One good game is not going to change my opinion on that. I agree Kerley looks promising but I'm not going to get extremely excited after a two catch game.
Receivers just haven't been open this year. I've seen every play of the Jets season so far and can probably count on one hand how many times a receiver gained clear separation from a defender.
Keller is a good pass catching tight end but don't act like he's Rob Gronkowski or Vernon Davis because he's nowhere near that caliber He's a top 12-15 tight end in the league at best.
And I'm not even going to mention the abysmal running game.
Bottom line, the argument I was trying to make is that Tannenbaum did absolutely nothing to upgrade the offense this, which needs desperate help, except get Tim Tebow and can we please agree that has been a bust so far? Clearly this offense needs work and anyone who can't admit that after watching these past two games is just in denial.
And just to note, there are few people I hate in this world more than Skip Bayless.
*cracks knuckles*
I will readily admit I don't know everything about every team in the NFL, but I do know everything there is to know about the Jets, and you sir....need a lesson (my apologies to everyone in this thread who does not give a flying rat's c*ck about the Jets).
This is asinine, because you can't talk about a dearth of talent without talking about the past couple of years where this supposed dearth of talent grew.
No you haven't, he has two drops, three if you want to count the pass he dropped then got gifted a phantom PI call by a scab ref. And if you cite ESPN for your reasoning behind his 5 drops (I have no idea if they even keep that as a stat), but it's 2 that counted, without a doubt.
Completely inaccurate. The problem wasn't getting open outside of the 4th quarter of the Steelers game, after Sanchez bounced passes off defenders for 3 quarters and Holmes got frustrated (not ideal behavior, but understandable).
Uh, the dude is on pace for over 980 yards and 10 Td's, plus elite punt returning. Do I think he'll end up with those number? No, but a 700-800 yard and 7 TD season from your #3 WR would be awesome. Kerley is legit.
Also not true. Receivers have been open a lot, Sanchez either does look to them, or forces it to someone else. He's been so consumed by not being a game manager who dumps it off he's stopped dumping it off entirely. Schilens had an easy TD on Sunday and Mark overthrew him by a mile. Same thing with Holmes in Pitt. The plays are there, but someone screws up more often than not.
2011 stats for TE's: 6th in yards and 9th in receptions. He's top 10 suckaaaaaa.
Bottom line, the argument I was trying to make is that Tannenbaum did absolutely nothing to upgrade the offense this, which needs desperate help, except get Tim Tebow and can we please agree that has been a bust so far? Clearly this offense needs work and anyone who can't admit that after watching these past two games is just in denial.
This is an asinine comment. Just....no, dude.
Tannenbaum got rid of Hunter and replaced him with a younger player who is a much better run blocker (and who has not given up a sack year), he changed offensive coordinators, he drafted Stephen Hill, he signed Chaz Schilens, but in reality he NEEDED to not do anything big. He has young players at every position, they need to let them develop. Every self-hating Jets fan loves to blow the Giants' front office, but you know what makes the Giants FO's job easier? Their fans aren't impatient sugar-high 12 year olds who want things NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW. Ramses Barden and Andre Brown were both drafted in 2009, did NOTHING for 3 full seasons, and are now tearing it up as Jets fans cry with the "why not us!?" bullsh*t. Because fans like you can't let a team grow young players like good franchises do and you want pro bowl caliber players at every position.
Obviously the offense needs work, so does Green Bay's, so does New Orleans, so does the Pats. Every team needs work, there are 3 undefeated teams in the entire NFL and it's week 3, there is a sh*tload of flawed teams right now in the NFL, so to end the Jets' season because they're flawed (even though they're in first place heading into a home game where the fans can 10000000% make the refs crumble like a sand castle) is just insane to me.
It's people like you that make other football fans hate the Jets. You're just delusional if you think this team (mainly this offense) is anything better than mediocre.
And yes I do think this team should be good now if the coach and front office is constantly claiming them to be the best team ever or whatever.
Chaz Schillens and Jeremy Kerley are not the saving graces of this team and neither will amount to much more than they currently are.
Would I love to be wrong? Absolutely but 15 years of being a Jets fan just makes me a pessimist I guess.
Serious question even though we've been bickering at each other: Would you be okay with keeping Mark Sanchez as the long term starter? It seems in your arguments you're anti-Sanchez/pro-receivers whereas I am the opposite. I would appreciate your opinion on this even though I probably will disagree.
The way this year is going, especially in thr afc east, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the jets win that division. Flanzo, you were right about the Pats down year, and clearly the bills and dolphins aren't going to be in it. I don't think this replacement officials situation will be ending soon, and that makes this year even more wide open.
It's people like you that make other football fans hate the Jets. You're just delusional if you think this team (mainly this offense) is anything better than mediocre.
And yes I do think this team should be good now if the coach and front office is constantly claiming them to be the best team ever or whatever.
Chaz Schillens and Jeremy Kerley are not the saving graces of this team and neither will amount to much more than they currently are.
Would I love to be wrong? Absolutely but 15 years of being a Jets fan just makes me a pessimist I guess.
Serious question even though we've been bickering at each other: Would you be okay with keeping Mark Sanchez as the long term starter? It seems in your arguments you're anti-Sanchez/pro-receivers whereas I am the opposite. I would appreciate your opinion on this even though I probably will disagree.
Putting this in a spoiler tab so people aren't forced to read this dumb argument:
Yes, it's logical, realistic, fact-dependent Jets fans who make the world hate us, it's definitely not the woe-is-me, self-hating, whiney annoying Jets fans.
A wise man once said you are what your record says you are. The Jets record says they're slightly above-average. If they come into the Pats game at 3-3, that's a solid 6-game stretch considering the slate the team has. You say they're mediorcre-at-best, I say they're mediocre-at-worst.
Any Jets fan who bases their expectations off of Rex's hyperbole is an idiot, no offense. You realized how ridiculous it is to say "well, they told me they were good, so they better be good." The new Nets owner says he expects a title in 3 years, does that mean Nets fans should demand he sells if it doesn't happen? No. Should that statement dictate that Nets fans expect the team is really, really good this year? No. Don't blame the coach or front office because you can't form your own expectations.
Jeremy Kerley is 23 years old and amongst the league leaders for slot receivers. And you know, the whole "young players get better over time" thing lends one to believe, hey the Jets might've found their new Wayne Chrebet. But you're right, let's bitch and moan and say what a 23 year old WR is or isn't based on 3 games where he played OVERWHELMINGLY WELL.
And you do realize that aside from Super Bowl III, you are currently residing in the winningest era of Jets football, right? The team has never gone 4 seasons without a losing record, the team has currently sports its winningest coach and winningest GM, in the past 3 seasons it has equaled it's total AFC Title appearances from the previous 40, and since Woody bought out cheap-ass Leon Hess, the team has had it's best decade in the team's history. So, stop b*tching, for the love of God. How old are you? 21? 22? Talk to a life-long Browns fan (sorry, Mike) if you want to know real misery.
And believe it or not you're wrong, I fully support Sanchez. His receivers are dropping passes that is not helping the cause, but he doesn't help it either with his horrific overthrows. He has to prove this year he's a legit franchise QB or I will want the team to look elsewhere. I realize he has a lot of young players who are inconsistent, and he's missing Keller, but Sanchez is also way too inconsistent. He played one of his 3 best games ever in Week 1, then the WRs let him down in Week 2, and he let his receivers down on Sunday. God forbid they get everything clicking again like they did in Week 1.
I realize the Revis news is disheartening, but you're really way too pessimistic. Cromartie would be the #1 on all but 5-10 teams, Wilson would start on many of those same teams as the #2. The FO you are criticizing had the foresight to know an injury to Revis would cripple the team unless they had players to step in and prevent a tremendous dropoff in play. Cro is inconsistent, but when he's playing well there isn't a better CB besides Revis. I say we wait until Sunday's game (which I'll be attending in person) before deeming the season over. If they win or lose by a score or less, game on. If they go and get the doors blown off by 30 points at home? See ya in 2013.
The way this year is going, especially in thr afc east, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the jets win that division. Flanzo, you were right about the Pats down year, and clearly the bills and dolphins aren't going to be in it. I don't think this replacement officials situation will be ending soon, and that makes this year even more wide open.
I missed Week 1's home game (gave the tickets to my little brother for a graduation present), so I'm going to be really interested to see how the crowd can influence the refs on Sunday. I know for a fact that 1 o clock Jets games are the loudest crowds the team gets, so people will be boozed up and getting after refs all day. I predict at least two of those "play stops....10 seconds later they throw a flag because they're being threatened with castration by the fans," penalties.