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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by Dave Maynar on Dec 8, 2014 18:50:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
As an educator I know exactly where you're coming from. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
Hiding their religion? This surprises me. When I was in high school, organizations like FCA and Young Life were huge. I was super active in church at that time in my life, and I don't remember ever feeling pressure to hide that sort of thing. Then again, I was not particularly popular in high school, so it's possible that I just missed that that was a thing? Or maybe I'm just so old that things have changed a lot since I was a kid? Or maybe I went to a weird school? Or is it that it's fine to be active in church, but not okay to take it seriously?
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
But they will never forget their moments of freedom. Even if you can't see the tree, you still planted a seed.
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Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
They will remember. I know I did.
Thank you to the dads and moms (and uncles, aunts and whatnot) who make that possible, be it church groups, scouting, 4H, whatever. I remember. None of them were my family, but they helped me feel like I was and they were; I remember.
Thank you Rick Casperson. Thank you Bob Ecker. Thank you Terry Kaupan.
It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers.
Replace 'kids' with 'men and women', and it doesn't sound at all like a certain group of misfits and weirdos I know and love...
28/01 - Blackstreet w/ Montell Jordan 17/02 - Blink 182 w/ Rise Against 24/02 - Taylor Swift 29/02 - The Chemical Brothers w/ The Presets, Anna Lunoe & James Holroyd 01/03 - The National w/ Fleet Foxes 21-22/03 - Wilco 22/05 - Jungle
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
Is there any chance you could look into booking more events/weekends that would allow everyone to get together periodically? Like, I'm sure you have other retreats and things of that nature lined up for the future but maybe something a bit more frequent which would allow the kids the "safe haven" to be how they want to be could be beneficial. Plus.....you'd get more and more renewed sense of purpose
It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers.
Replace 'kids' with 'men and women', and it doesn't sound at all like a certain group of misfits and weirdos I know and love...
Within the first few lines I was thinking the same thing....
Yeah, I'm bumping a two year old thread. Deal with it.
As many of you know, I work with the high school kids at my church. I spent this past weekend at a retreat with them in NC. I've had a lot of questions about whether the job is right for me because I have never done anything like this. It was so great to watch both my kids and the others warm up to each other over such a short period and appear to really delight in each other's company and appear free to really be themselves even if being themselves is something that is well outside what is acceptable for "normal" high school kids. On the other hand, it was heartbreaking to the point of almost being painful to see these same kids show tension, fear and years at the closing ceremony while they spoke about how they didn't want to go home because it meant they had to go back to hiding out of fear of the reaction they would get from their peers. It really gave me a renewed sense of purpose in my job though because it reminded me of why it's important.
Hiding their religion? This surprises me. When I was in high school, organizations like FCA and Young Life were huge. I was super active in church at that time in my life, and I don't remember ever feeling pressure to hide that sort of thing. Then again, I was not particularly popular in high school, so it's possible that I just missed that that was a thing? Or maybe I'm just so old that things have changed a lot since I was a kid? Or maybe I went to a weird school? Or is it that it's fine to be active in church, but not okay to take it seriously?
UU church not Christian church. I was speaking more toward gender identity, sexual orientation and less popular interests.
Hiding their religion? This surprises me. When I was in high school, organizations like FCA and Young Life were huge. I was super active in church at that time in my life, and I don't remember ever feeling pressure to hide that sort of thing. Then again, I was not particularly popular in high school, so it's possible that I just missed that that was a thing? Or maybe I'm just so old that things have changed a lot since I was a kid? Or maybe I went to a weird school? Or is it that it's fine to be active in church, but not okay to take it seriously?
UU church not Christian church. I was speaking more toward gender identity, sexual orientation and less popular interests.
Ah, that makes sense. I was definitely thinking of Christian church, which, sadly, is probably even less accepting of those differences than school.
"I have seen the top of the mountain, and it is good" -Butthead
Yeah, but have you seen the BOTTOM of the mountain? That is where it's at. No one ever tries, but it is right there easy to grasp. Overlooked, underlooked...but it is there.
The top is worthless if you don't know the bottom.
Hiding their religion? This surprises me. When I was in high school, organizations like FCA and Young Life were huge. I was super active in church at that time in my life, and I don't remember ever feeling pressure to hide that sort of thing. Then again, I was not particularly popular in high school, so it's possible that I just missed that that was a thing? Or maybe I'm just so old that things have changed a lot since I was a kid? Or maybe I went to a weird school? Or is it that it's fine to be active in church, but not okay to take it seriously?
UU church not Christian church. I was speaking more toward gender identity, sexual orientation and less popular interests.
I think it's great that you and the UU church are helping to provide a community where kids feel accepted and loved, whatever their gender/orientation/beliefs. I hate how far modern Christianity has strayed from the principles Jesus espoused and it makes me so sad and disgusted to see people use Christianity as a weapon against those kids and people. in general, we all just need to love more and get over our damn selves. you are making a real difference in these kids' lives, so bravo.
There is far too much talk about much-needed love and positivity in the lives of children, and not nearly enough talk about how church is weird.
oh I have weird church stories too. I think my fave was when my high school youth pastor had the whole youth group over to his house to watch Billy Madison. that was super awkward for everyone.
There is far too much talk about much-needed love and positivity in the lives of children, and not nearly enough talk about how church is weird.
oh I have weird church stories too. I think my fave was when my high school youth pastor had the whole youth group over to his house to watch Billy Madison. that was super awkward for everyone.
From my experience every high school youth pastor I have encountered is awkward....no offense to any high school youth pastors out there.
Let's just take a moment to appreciate the youth pastor dress code:
short sleeve ocbd slightly unbuttoned w/ white shirt underneath khaki cargo shorts A&F flip-flops spiky hair and visor some type of necklace made of shells or rocks of some sort
The Lutheran church down the street held lock-ins every now and then. Some 7th graders got in trouble during one for smoking pot and blowing each other. I'm still pissed at God that I was raised in the Catholic church instead of that one.
The Lutheran church down the street held lock-ins every now and then. Some 7th graders got in trouble during one for smoking pot and blowing each other. I'm still pissed at God that I was raised in the Catholic church instead of that one.
I hear you; if I am going to get blown in a religious setting, I believe I would prefer to be blown by my peers than some moldy old priest.
The Lutheran church down the street held lock-ins every now and then. Some 7th graders got in trouble during one for smoking pot and blowing each other. I'm still pissed at God that I was raised in the Catholic church instead of that one.
I hear you; if I am going to get blown in a religious setting, I believe I would prefer to be blown by my peers than some moldy old priest.
I feel icky now.
Mold blowies are the best blowies.
I've had sex in a church but thankfully it was among consenting adults.
We went to a friends daughters first communion. Ethan was pretty excited to check out this church thing. When we left I asked what he thought and his exact words were "that was sooooo weird" Oh catholic mass, you so silly
My 1 month old nephew will be playing baby Jesus in a school play next week. I've never seen a ginger Christ. I'm pretty excited about it although I'm anticipating the reviews will be questioning the choices of the casting director.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.