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Post by FatKeystone on Feb 18, 2012 22:01:13 GMT -5
Okay people of Inforoo I have quite the dilemma. So the LSAT test (the test to get into law school) is the Monday after Bonnaroo, so obviously I have to choose between taking the test and going to Roo.
The test is also offered in October and December, but it would be advantageous to take it in June since I won't have any actual classes to worry about and I can focus more time on studying. Plus, if I bomb the test in June I can always take it again in October.
So my question is what would you all do in my situation? Would you go to Roo and put off taking the LSAT until October or would you skip Roo if favor of taking the test in June. Also, is anyone else in a similar situation as me? I do love the lineup and really want to go to the farm this year but I really am having a huge internal dilemma and have already talked to several people about it.
I just wanted to see what you all thought and your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Okay people of Inforoo I have quite the dilemma. So the LSAT test (the test to get into law school) is the Monday after Bonnaroo, so obviously I have I have to choose between taking the test and going to Roo.
The test is also offered in October and December, but it would be advantageous to take it in June since I won't have any actual classes to worry about and I can focus more time on studying. Plus, if I bomb the test in June I can always take it again in October.
So my question is what would you all do in my situation? Would you go to Roo and put off taking the LSAT until October or would you skip Roo if favor of taking the test in June. Also, is anyone else in a similar situation as me? I do love the lineup and really want to go to the farm this year but I really am having a huge internal dilemma and have already talked to several people about it.
I just wanted to see what you all thought and your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Okay people of Inforoo I have quite the dilemma. So the LSAT test (the test to get into law school) is the Monday after Bonnaroo, so obviously I have I have to choose between taking the test and going to Roo.
The test is also offered in October and December, but it would be advantageous to take it in June since I won't have any actual classes to worry about and I can focus more time on studying. Plus, if I bomb the test in June I can always take it again in October.
So my question is what would you all do in my situation? Would you go to Roo and put off taking the LSAT until October or would you skip Roo if favor of taking the test in June. Also, is anyone else in a similar situation as me? I do love the lineup and really want to go to the farm this year but I really am having a huge internal dilemma and have already talked to several people about it.
I just wanted to see what you all thought and your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You will be better prepared in October anyway.
I agree. I can take a prep class for the June test but it would be squeezed into two weeks whereas for the October test I can take a prep class throughout the entire summer. All I know is I hate the LSAC for making the damn test after Roo when it usually is beforehand. C'mon they should know better.
LSAT has testing in June, October, and December of this year, yes?
Bonaroo 2012 is a once in a lifetime occuring event (not to say that Bonnaroo itself is a once in a lifetime event, but this 2012 lineup and subsequent experience will be)
Even if you have classes over the summer and a job, you can always still set aside a few hours every couple of days to tackle studying for the LSAT. Now this may not be a possibility as I don't know your personal summer schedule, but if it possible, it should be taken into consideration.
There's the argument of "you have the rest of your life to grow up", while at the same time maybe you are at a point in your life where taking the LSAT in June is more important to you than attending Bonnaroo 2012, which is completely ok and understandable.
In summation, it sounds cheesy, but go with your gut and do what YOU feel is right. Choose what will make you happiest not only in the short term but in the long term as well.
Post by thecolonel on Feb 18, 2012 22:21:33 GMT -5
In 2007, I was prepared to take the June LSAT on Tuesday and then travel to Roo on Wednesday. I was prepared for the June LSAT, took all the practice exams and studied (however much you can for the LSAT). When I arrived to take the test, I presented my drivers license to the proctor, who informed me that my license was expired about two weeks, and unless I didn't have any other form of i.d., I couldn't take the test. So I didn't take the test and postponed it to October, and went to Roo. Obviously I had a great fantastic time at Roo 2007.
I am currently attorney in Memphis at a pretty good law firm. I say f*ck the June LSAT and take the October one. LSAT will always be there. Live it up while you are still young and don't stress about your future career.
On a side note, unless you get into a top 15 law school (rankings wise), I would recommend not mortgaging your future on student loans for law school. As such, go to a respectable state school (preferably in your home state to get in-state tuition) and don't spend a ton of loan money on any private law school. It is tough out there for new law school graduates (I graduated in May 2011 and my graduating class of 126 had only about 25+ permanent job offers upon graduation, and I went to a top 75 state law school). I was lucky to have one of those 25 job offers. As long as you doing fu*king awesome your 1L year and get on Law Review and/or journal, you will get a good job coming out of law school, even if you go to a state law school.
I kind of did it backwards, I went to a top 20 undergrad school and then went to a state law school. Mortgaging your future on students loans is not a good move.
My first piece of advice would be to avoid law school. The market is flooded, jobs are scarce, graduates are drowning in debt, and some are even suing their law schools these days for giving them false impressions of career prospects. However, if you are able to get into a top 20 law school, then you should have no worries. Which leads into my next piece of advice...
If you go to Bonnaroo this summer, take the LSAT in October. A stellar LSAT score is critical to getting into a stellar law school. Sure, you could take it in June and then again in October if you are not satisfied with your June score, but the top schools do not look favorably on taking the LSAT more than once. In fact, most schools would average your two scores for admissions decisions. I don't care how smart you are or how prepared you are, you will not be able to give it your best shot the day following four exhausting (but awesome) days camping in the Tennessee heat.
I also encourage you to attend Bonnaroo. The LSAT is a big deal, but it's a piece of cake compared to the the rigors of law school. Take advantage of every fun opportunity that arises while you still can. Not that you can't still have fun while in law school, of course. I attended Bonnaroo the summer after my second year and the summer after my third year of law school (when I was also preparing for the bar exam).
The only downside to taking it in October is that you won't be able to apply to law schools until sometime in November at the earliest. However, as you said, this will give you even more time to prepare for it. As long as your score is good enough, it doesn't matter when you apply to schools.
I say take your time and enjoy time off before jumping into law school. But as the above poster mentioned, it's just a music festival. A good one at that.
Just a little unsolicited advice. I'm 44 and when I was 38 I was diagnosed with cancer. Unfortunately it took until then for me to stop giving a shit about what I was supposed to do and to just do what made me (and my family, 2 kids now) happy. To add insult to fucking injury a month after Roo 2011 I was diagnosed with a different cancer. As of now that's all done but the point is that while you can't be a complete nihilist you REALLY don't know what's going to happen next so do what is best for your heart and soul!
I'm posting for the first time in years for this thread, so listen up:
Take the god damn LSAT. You're talking about postponing one of the key components of your career/future because of a glorified concert. Jesus Christ... Any of you people telling this kid to skip the LSATs and go to a festival need your freakin' heads examined.
Disclaimer: I quit a job for Bonnaroo one year. It was a shitty retail job that I worked for 3 months and was getting paid $9/hr. See the difference?
Bonnaroo '12 will never, ever happen again. When I graduated, I rushed into a job and now I sorely regret it because I could have done a lot last summer I didn't get a chance to.
I almost turned down Roo to get that job too. But then at the last minute I got some balls and told them I would accept the job but I needed a week off for Roo. Surprisingly they said yes.
There will ALWAYS be LSATS... Roo '12 will never happen again... you have your whole life to work... Roo it and go for it in October. Enjoy yourself.
Anyone telling you that your career is more important than roo just doesn't want to fight for more room at the filling stations
and in my humble opinion I'm learning the concept of a 'career' at this point for most of us recent grads is pretty much a joke.. do what makes you happy now. you could get run down by a speeding taxi or something and die and id rather die with another roo under my belt instead of a 'what if'
be good to yourself whatever you choose there's enough judgement in the world today from others and from YOURSELF!! too much judging going on!
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Oh school. I'm glad I did it my way. Graduate high school. Get a job. Start a family. Work at said job for 10 years. Then go back to school when I'm older and smarter and know what I want. Also when you have dependents there is this wonderful thing called financial aid. My husband has 40 grand in loans to pay back and works in a field that kind has to do with his major. But he could've gotten the job without school.
And no, I don't work at McDonald's.
But I still think if you've made as far as the LSATS the you should just take them in June and be done with it.
Post by FatKeystone on Feb 19, 2012 10:47:21 GMT -5
Wow thanks so much for all the responses everybody, I really didn't expect so many people to offer advice and really good advice at that. It seems the general consensus is "do Roo because the LSATs are always there" with some "career first" people sprinkled in.
This really is a tough decision and I know the responsible thing would be to take the test in June but I just don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive myself for missing such an amazing lineup. Thanks for the advice everybody it's really helping me out.
Wow thanks so much for all the responses everybody, I really didn't expect so many people to offer advice and really good advice at that. It seems the general consensus is "do Roo because the LSATs are always there" with some "career first" people sprinkled in.
This really is a tough decision and I know the responsible thing would be to take the test in June but I just don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive myself for missing such an amazing lineup. Thanks for the advice everybody it's really helping me out.
The best advice you got was pick a different career path, the profession of law is getting pretty full most places these days.
Wow thanks so much for all the responses everybody, I really didn't expect so many people to offer advice and really good advice at that. It seems the general consensus is "do Roo because the LSATs are always there" with some "career first" people sprinkled in.
This really is a tough decision and I know the responsible thing would be to take the test in June but I just don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive myself for missing such an amazing lineup. Thanks for the advice everybody it's really helping me out.
The best advice you got was pick a different career path, the profession of law is getting pretty full most places these days.
I know the job market for lawyers has gone to sh*t but it's been a dream of mine to go to law school for a while now and I really want to stick to it. Of course nothing is ever definite, as I am still considering other post-graduate options.
The best advice you got was pick a different career path, the profession of law is getting pretty full most places these days.
I know the job market for lawyers has gone to sh*t but it's been a dream of mine to go to law school for a while now and I really want to stick to it. Of course nothing is ever definite, as I am still considering other post-graduate options.
I would seriously echo those who said to really, really think it through. Talk to people who've been there, who are just getting out, who've been out for awhile. Maybe try to get a runner job or something before you start school to get a feel for the law firm atmosphere. If it's been a dream of yours, you are obviously not doing it on a whim or because you don't know what else to do (like I did), but I went to school with people who had planned it for years and knew they wanted to be lawyers, but who hate their law firm jobs now. (I'm lucky to have a court job that I really like, but it has its own disadvantages, and my options for eventually moving on from it are limited by my refusal to work for a law firm.) It's just a huge investment of time and money that, for some people, does not really turn out the way they expected it to.
But if it's enough of a dream that you are willing to risk/invest three years of your life and who knows how much of your money on law school, then it's probably important enough to you to justify missing Bonnaroo in order to make the best possible decisions to get you to where you want to be.
On a side note, ... I would recommend not mortgaging your future on student loans for law school.
As one in the final months of clearing old student debt, I know this is very wise advice.
Can you not do both? Study like hell up until roo, go to roo, maybe do some light reading during slow times there, get a good night sleep Sunday, then roll in and ace the damn thing....
If you don't, then do it the conventional way in the fall.
On a side note, ... I would recommend not mortgaging your future on student loans for law school.
As one in the final months of clearing old student debt, I know this is very wise advice.
Can you not do both? Study like hell up until roo, go to roo, maybe do some light reading during slow times there, get a good night sleep Sunday, then roll in and ace the damn thing....
If you don't, then do it the conventional way in the fall.
Happy roo...
Believe me I have considered this. I live in New Jersey, but I was researching other places to take the test and sure enough there is a place in Murfreesboro, about a half hour away from Roo. My plan was to roll out of Roo Sunday night and take the test Monday afternoon in Murfreesboro, which I honestly think is a decent plan.
The problem with this? My parents are vehemently against it. And I kind of have to listen to them as they would be helping me pay for my prep classes and the test itself.
Best piece of advice I will ever hand out - DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL. Just don't. Don't bother. You're not going to change the world. You aren't going to be some super environmental crusader. You won't be rewriting the constitution. You won't be defending people's rights. You're going to either a) work more hours than you thought possible just to make a decent wage, b) make zero money working at a small firm or as a public defender/child advocate/public interest attorney, or c) neither, because nobody wants to hire attorneys any more.
If you REALLY must ruin your life by going to law school, why the hell are you wasting your money and time on LSAT prep? That sh*t don't help. I promise. It's a waste. If you're still in college, DON'T take the test this summer. Enjoy your summer, because once you're an attorney that won't be possible ever again. If you're graduating this year, take it in either October or December. You'll be fine. You're in college, you don't really have sh*t to do, you can easily work in a couple hours a week of LSAT prep if you feel you need it.
Take it from someone who took off to Bonnaroo for a weekend while in the midst of studying for the bar exam, putting ANYTHING fun/important/awesome off for law/law school/etc. is a huge mistake. I could have been sitting in a huge classroom, going over essays and the UCC and will formation. I wasn't. I was at a farm in Tennessee, watching Grizzly Bear. It was awesome.
Oh - and don't go to law school unless you get into a T1 school, or unless you get a free ride to some TTT school. It's not worth it, especially if you're paying for it yourself with loans. If you have to go, get into a T1 (preferably a T14), kill yourself to graduate top 10%, and then you can have a shot at picking what you want to do. Otherwise, it's pray for a shot with a BigLaw firm, and then once you get it, bill 2200 hours a year for the next 10 years of your life while you develop ulcers and migraines and a coke habit and drink too much and generally become a miserable human being. Trust me on this. I graduated with people who are only 28 years old, but 3 years of BigLaw and they look like they're 38. It's some sh*t.
None of this applies to me, just in case you were wondering. I'm fit and handsome and not at all addicted to prescription medication. I bill my clients honestly and honorably and I make lots of money doing so, which I then use to buy things that remind me how much better I am than everyone else.
Juggs, thanks for your input. Pretty much anyone who is not my professor or my parents is generally telling me the same thing about law school and law careers but you definitely put it the most blunt, which I appreciate.
Question though, why do you think LSAT prep classes are a waste of time? And what do you think would be the best way to prepare for the test? Also, can I ask what your pre-law school experience was like (when you took the LSAT, application process, etc)? I'm just interested as to why you think pursuing a law career is a waste of time, yet you seem to be pretty successful and happy from what I can tell.
Thanks again for your and everyone else's advice. It's been very helpful.
Question though, why do you think LSAT prep classes are a waste of time? And what do you think would be the best way to prepare for the test? Also, can I ask what your pre-law school experience was like (when you took the LSAT, application process, etc)? I'm just interested as to why you think pursuing a law career is a waste of time, yet you seem to be pretty successful and happy from what I can tell.
Thanks again for your and everyone else's advice. It's been very helpful.[/quote]
They do work if you work at them. I didn't do any prep except doing logic problems while watching the West Wing and scored very well. I was asked to teach for the Princeton Review and I can say that if I had taken the course I probably would have scored about 7 points higher. The real question is what are you scoring now and where do you want to go to school? If you are already at or near that level I would go ahead and go to Roo and make your friends get you home so you can get some rest.
Law school sucks, most lawyers hate themselves but there are exceptions. It just takes some time and work to get there like everything else. Good Luck.
Question though, why do you think LSAT prep classes are a waste of time? And what do you think would be the best way to prepare for the test? Also, can I ask what your pre-law school experience was like (when you took the LSAT, application process, etc)? I'm just interested as to why you think pursuing a law career is a waste of time, yet you seem to be pretty successful and happy from what I can tell.
Thanks again for your and everyone else's advice. It's been very helpful.
They do work if you work at them. I didn't do any prep except doing logic problems while watching the West Wing and scored very well. I was asked to teach for the Princeton Review and I can say that if I had taken the course I probably would have scored about 7 points higher. The real question is what are you scoring now and where do you want to go to school? If you are already at or near that level I would go ahead and go to Roo and make your friends get you home so you can get some rest.
Law school sucks, most lawyers hate themselves but there are exceptions. It just takes some time and work to get there like everything else. Good Luck.
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I have never taken the test before and never have done any prep work and I would like to get into a top 20 school...Virginia, Columbia, and Duke are high on my list. Are you saying the best option is to go to Roo and then take the test the next day (in June)?
there's enough judgement in the world today from others and from YOURSELF!! too much judging going on! 
