Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo.
Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo in 2013!!
1-1-12 Bassnectar NYE SHOW! 1-21-12 G. Love and Special Sauce 3-1-12 Radiohead 3-9-12 Experience Hendrix 5-15-12 Jack White @ The Ryman 6-7-12 Bonnaroo 6-19-12 Roger Waters presents "THE WALL" 7-7-12 Ringo Starr's 72nd Birthday Party Extravaganza at the Ryman
At MOST I could see a 24 hour period just to keep people from posting knee jerk reactions, but I see minimal benefit in this.
I think 24 hours would separate a lot of wheat from the chaff. Don't get me wrong I love for us to get new members, and I am typically pretty welcoming. However a small amount of time when they were encouraged to read Leo's List, a thread that states opening times, and a few other key issues could be beneficial.
Is there a way to go as short as 4-8 hours? That should give people enough time to catch up before posting, and realistically that is all we need.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 5, 2012 12:39:17 GMT -5
A majority of people who are signing up have already been here, but are just lurking. Giving a 4-8 hour limit will not force people to catch up/read. They may already have been reading along all the while.
The real trick here is to convey the messages of:
1. Look before you post - is there a thread for this band already? Is there a thread that already answers or addresses your question?
2. Read before you post - seems similar but this is actually different. Looking around is scoping the place and seeing if threads/topics were already created. Reading before you post is more about chcecking the last few posts made in the thread you're about to post in to make sure the "exclusive info" or "leaked lineup" you're about to post wasn't already debunked/mentioned.
3. Don't spam - don't just post like crazy. Actually contribute to the thread/discussion
A majority of people who are signing up have already been here, but are just lurking. Giving a 4-8 hour limit will not force people to catch up/read. They may already have been reading along all the while.
The real trick here is to convey the messages of:
1. Look before you post - is there a thread for this band already? Is there a thread that already answers or addresses your question?
2. Read before you post - seems similar but this is actually different. Looking around is scoping the place and seeing if threads/topics were already created. Reading before you post is more about chcecking the last few posts made in the thread you're about to post in to make sure the "exclusive info" or "leaked lineup" you're about to post wasn't already debunked/mentioned.
3. Don't spam - don't just post like crazy. Actually contribute to the thread/discussion
Yeah it just seems like a lot of people just sign up and go crazy, a little cool down period to let the buck fever simmer off is not really a bad idea imo.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 5, 2012 12:55:22 GMT -5
I agree with you totally about that. I am just not sure that 4-8 hours is going to make things better than a 24 hour waiting period.
Even if we make it 48 hours....it's just delaying the people from posting and the problem we face are posting habits....not when the people post.
Whatever is decided is fine by me. Either way we're going to have an influx of new members and a good portion of them will do noobish things so we all just best prepare for it lol.
I don't really know how much effect this will have on some of the noob issues. Certainly the waiting period may cut down on the random spam we get occasionally, but I agree with ITM that most of the issues stem from bad habits or lack of forum knowledge, and I don't know if a waiting period will do much with that. But its worth a shot. I think we would all be better served if there was a way to promote certain threads that cover a lot of the basics and general forum know-how.
1. Look before you post - is there a thread for this band already? Is there a thread that already answers or addresses your question?
2. Read before you post - seems similar but this is actually different. Looking around is scoping the place and seeing if threads/topics were already created. Reading before you post is more about chcecking the last few posts made in the thread you're about to post in to make sure the "exclusive info" or "leaked lineup" you're about to post wasn't already debunked/mentioned.
3. Don't spam - don't just post like crazy. Actually contribute to the thread/discussion
Or something close to this, at least there wouldn't be 2390482398523 new threads about whatever band this particular class of noobs is horny for
I think we would all be better served if there was a way to promote certain threads that cover a lot of the basics and general forum know-how.
You mean like the bulletin style threads, or whatever you call them? My words are failin' me right now. Just a playful jab. Waitin' period or not, we're still gonna have our community here. And some kids will stick around, and others won't.
2/26 Ra Ra Riot
3/12 Animal Collective & Dan Deacon
4/11 Weird Al
4/18 The Fritz
4/20 Snarky Puppy
4/24 Les Claypool's Duo De Twang
4/26 Beats Antique (Volapalooza)
5/7 Boris
5/13 Father John Misty w/ Adam Green & Binki Shapiro
5/17-5/19 Hangout Fest
6/6 Postal Service (looking for a pit ticket - PM me!)
6/7 Postal Service (pit)
6/8 Postal Service (pit)
6/13-6/16 Bonnaroo
6/27 Lake Street Drive
10/25-10/27 MOEMS
Guys, I know the newbies can be taxing at times. I've had my share of run arounds with a few of them these last few weeks. But for the most part, they are good kids just trying to fit in and enjoy the show.
So be nice.
And Juggs, take a Xanax and an Advil for those over exercised muscles, and go file a brief.
And I think I should author the welcome email, frankly (no pun intended).
Hit me with a sample.
Dear Random New Member,
Welcome to the Inforoo community. Please note that the word "community" is being used in the sense that this is a large group of people with similar interests, and is absolutely not being used the way hippies use it. You know what I mean, brah.
If you want to have a happy, healthy and enjoyable experience here, and wish to avoid being hated and mocked mercilessly by people just like me (because I have nothing better to do than hate hate hate), here are some suggestions as to "do" and "do not." Think of them as helpful guidelines, except that when you don't abide by them everyone else will secretly be hoping that someone tampers with your brakes.
- Please refrain from attempting to claim you have some SUPER SECRET inside information about who is playing this year. If you're lying, we'll find out, because idiots try this crap every year. And we will never, ever stop making fun of you for it.
- Try to make clear, concise posts that add to the discussion. Rather than simply post saying "I agree," or "yeah Mastodon is awesome," explain why you like something, why you disagree with something, etc. Logic and coherence are your friends.
- Don't start a thread on a topic without at least checking back a few pages in any given forum to see if there is a similar or identical thread already in existence. For instance, if you're ultra excited about the possibility of My Morning Jacket playing at Bonnaroo 2013, don't just start up a "MY MORNINING JACKET HEADLINER" thread on page one - check that page, and pages two and three, to make sure there isn't a thread about My Morning Jacket already. If you're ultra excited about the possibility of Skrillex playing at Bonnaroo 2013, just toss yourself into oncoming traffic.
- Learn the different forums and their purposes. There are forums and subforums for pretty much every topic you could think of, so take a few minutes and figure them out so that you can more easily locate the type of information you're looking for. As an example, if you're looking for music downloads, there is a "downloads" subforum in the Troo Music Lounge. If you want to discuss the Roo Clues, there's a subforum for that too. Everything in its right place.
- Similarly, try to keep your posts/threads in the right forum or thread. For instance, don't start a thread about how stoked you are about Wakarusa in the "Troo Music Lounge" forum - there is a sub-forum dedicated to discussion of non-Bonnaroo related music, so take it over there. Likewise, if there is a thread entitled "Headliner Speculation," don't go in there and start posting about how you think Flying Lotus would make a great late night act. You're right, but it's in the wrong place. You will see this guideline being ignored all the time, and that doesn't make it okay, just like the fact that just because millions of Americans choose to vote Democrat doesn't make it an okay thing to do.
- If your grammar, spelling, or typing skills are grossly sub par then I reserve the right to take a massive metaphorical shiz all over you.
- Don't post about drugs. Or curse. There are word filters in place here, and even though they're ultra-stupid, they exist for some reason of which I am unaware. I mean, you can do this all you want I suppose, but the word filters will change your posts into unreadable nonsense.
- If you start getting personally upset, or find yourself getting worked up in a lather over something someone said, or find yourself unable to refrain from firing off racial/social epithets (unless its a joke, because racism = humor, am I right?), take a step back from your keyboard or iPhone or Android or some other hipster telemessaging device, and relax. It's a message board. If someone is making fun of you, it's most likely in complete jest. Unless it's me, because I already hate you.
- Finally, here are some topics that come up all the time. Avoid starting discussions about them whenever possible, because they accomplish nothing.
1) MTV does not own Bonnaroo. It just doesn't, so stop it. If you honestly believe this than you probably have better things to do than post on an internet message board, like "finish high school," or "stop sniffing glue."
2) If you really need to go into an in-depth discussion about how Kanye West ruined Bonnaroo in 2008, please be aware that you will be torn to pieces in about 30 seconds like you were thrown to a pack of hungry wolves. Which is pretty much exactly what will happen. Also please refrain from talking about how the Grateful Dead clan hates Bonnaroo because of 2008, because that's completely unfounded by anything and just makes you look stupid.
3) Similarly, Bonnaroo has been "ruined" multiple times over. By my count, the festival was ruined by Dave Matthews and his fratty fans (2004 and 2005); by Radiohead, Death Cab for Cutie, Bright Eyes, and all their emo depressive sadness (2006); by Tool and their ultra hardkore metal fans (2007); by Metallica, Mastodon, the Sword, and all the even MORE ultra hardkore mosh pits (2008); by Kanye West and all the MAINSTREAM BULLshiz bands that came along with him (also 2008); by Bruce Springsteen and his cheesy Super Bowl Halftime Show-esque antics (2009); by Jay-Z and the other assorted hippity-hop rappers and their totes dangerous gangster thug fans (lol CASuAL RACISM) (2010); by Kings of Leon and their teeny bopper fan base (2010, but please note they were totally okay back in 2004 and 2005 when nobody knew who they were); by Arcade Fire (2011, nobody actually believes this but insane people); by Eminem and Lil' Wayne because a) they're too mainstream, b) they attract a bunch of THUGS and ROUGHNECKS, c) they attract a bunch of TEENS and FRAT BOYS (which seems to contradict "b," but whatever), and d) THEY WON'T EVER SHOW UP ON TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE RAPPERS. The larger point being, every year someone makes boneheaded complaints that Bonnaroo is going to be ruined by Random Artist X and their fratty/young/violent/aggressive/old/stupid/smelly/equine fans. It's old, and tired, and has no basis in reality. People are people, you'll find assholes among fans of every band, get used to it.
4) There is no Thursday "headliner." Every year, Pollstar or Jambase or someone will list a certain artist as playing on Thursday night, and that artist will be someone a little too big for Thursday, like Widespread Panic or Snoop Dogg. People will start going full retard, yelling about a Thursday headliner. Not happening. It's a mistake by the publication in question, that's all. Note: Someday, this may change, but it's not likely to happen this year, so just shut up about it. No, really - you're wrong, shut up.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask a veteran member of the board via PM, or a mod, or anyone except me, because I really will in all likelihood just mock you openly. I'm serious, I'm a very important man with very important things to do and I can't spend all day answering your questions when I already spend all day wasting time on this message board and finding ways to charge it to clients. Christ.
I really really like it actually. Can we get this message to all brand new members?
You know, with some obvious tweaking, it has potential.
Obvious tweaking would render it sterile and ineffective.
Fine, I suppose the (very few) curses in there undermine the whole "don't curse" rule (that rule is terrible, nobody ever got anywhere without cursing), so I could replace the curse words with asterisks and such.
I feel that new members might find it a bit repressive and heavy handed. Almost like, I don't know, a lawyer wrote it.
Yeah, heaven forbid we say "hey, you know what? These things, they really get on everyone's nerves, so rather than post about them and get b*tched at by every single person on the board, here's a heads up to not do that." WOULDN'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE'S SENSIBILITIES.
If I were a new user, I'd rather hear that up front, so I know not to spout off about ignorance, rather than get yelled at by someone like me later.
Also, there are jokes in there. Heavy-handed my arse.
