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Sixteen days until the Iowa caucuses to determine a Republican challenger to Barack Obama, an incumbent president with lower approval ratings than any who's been reelected within recent memory.
Ineffective President, bought Congress and moronic Supreme Court. Wish Canada was warmer.
Edit: To be a bit more constructive and since I don't plan on becoming an expatriate my plan is to vote against every federal incumbent unless they are running against a total idiot. Since the GOP presidential field is full of total idiots it will have to be Obama.
Post by RadioSpirit on Dec 18, 2011 21:04:02 GMT -5
I love Jon Huntsman. Too bad the GOP base would never nominate him, despite what is actually a pretty consistent conservative record. He would be the best US presidential candidate in a decade. Should never have said he "stands with science" when asked about global warming...you gotta wait until you get past the Tea Party before you admit to logic and reason...
According to the PPP poll, Mr. Gingrich's campaign poll numbers are dropping "rapidly" and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa. While Rep. Ron Paul, Texas Republican, is leading the poll at 23 percent, Mr. Gingrich is now at 14 percent. Only former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney barely trails Rep. Paul at 20 percent.
I thought Ron Paul was the best candidate in last years election, I went with change. If Paul wins the Republican ticket, Obama will be a one-term guy.
Ron Paul scares me for his anti-abortion and anti-regulation (read Wall Street) positions. I do love his stance on foreign military involvement. Huntsman is too damn logical to get nominated by the GOP but I would vote for him over Obama if he did.
Ron Paul scares me for his anti-abortion and anti-regulation (read Wall Street) positions. I do love his stance on foreign military involvement. Huntsman is too damn logical to get nominated by the GOP but I would vote for him over Obama if he did.
Second on the Ron Paul comment. I have to admit he seems like a pretty honorable guy, but I just can't go with him on some of his views. I have to look up more about this Huntsman guy.
Post by Laggy.RETURNS on Dec 19, 2011 10:03:16 GMT -5
I've been very dissapointed with Obama- not because of what he's done, but because of what he doesn't do. He's been weak and spineless, and tries way too hard to appeal to a very hawkish right wing, whom he's never ever ever going to win over. What pisses me off is how despite his constant right wing appeasment and ass-kissing, the spin doctors on the right have managed to paint him as an excessively liberal partisan socialist, and people actually buy it.
I thought Paul seemed like an attractive candidate at first. He's in the right place on alot of the issues. And he's clearly an honest politician with strong value on freedom, and consistent positions. But his position on certain key issues, like opposition to financial regulation... I just can't abide by that. At least he's not on that side due to being bought off though. I honestly the dude just blindly believes in absolute free market capitalism. But that system doesn't work when it's being controlled by huge corporate crooks.
I'm not familiar with hunstman, but from what I've seen, other than Paul, the whole field is complete morons. This has been the scariest presidential race in my lifetime.
I think it's unfair to blame Obama for an inept and inactive congress. It's not his fault the two sides just sit there saying "no" to each other all day and attach ridiculous clauses and projects to bills that have nothing to do with them (like the payroll tax cut/pipeline nonsense). Democrat, Republican...it wouldn't matter. If the other party controls even part of congress it's just going to be more of the same BS.
I think it's unfair to blame Obama for an inept and inactive congress. It's not his fault the two sides just sit there saying "no" to each other all day and attach ridiculous clauses and projects to bills that have nothing to do with them (like the payroll tax cut/pipeline nonsense). Democrat, Republican...it wouldn't matter. If the other party controls even part of congress it's just going to be more of the same BS.
My issue with Obama is not with his relationship with Congress. Nobody can work with those assholes. My issue with him is that he has the wolves watching the henhouse as far as financial regulation goes. That's his cabinet and his appointees.
As a former finance drone, I actually want those people watching the financial institutions. Far too often people put intellectuals or politicians in those roles, and those guys generally don't know a stock from a mortgage-backed security. They'll know theory, but not any of the ins and outs of the daily operation. They need people like that to watch over the finance industry, they just have to find the ones that aren't greedy, soulless scumbags.
I think it's unfair to blame Obama for an inept and inactive congress. It's not his fault the two sides just sit there saying "no" to each other all day and attach ridiculous clauses and projects to bills that have nothing to do with them (like the payroll tax cut/pipeline nonsense). Democrat, Republican...it wouldn't matter. If the other party controls even part of congress it's just going to be more of the same BS.
My issue with Obama is not with his relationship with Congress. Nobody can work with those assholes. My issue with him is that he has the wolves watching the henhouse as far as financial regulation goes. That's his cabinet and his appointees.
When he appointed Rham Emanuel it was the first confirmation that he wasn't going to be the president I hoped for and expected him to be. I don't regret my vote. I wouldn't have even voted for any of the other 2008 democratic runners over him. But he did dissapoint. He raised expectations way too high for everyone.
they just have to find the ones that aren't greedy, soulless scumbags.
Do they exist? Geitner and Bernanke don't seem capable of ethical practices. Could a true reformist/watchdog actually be appointed to a position of power or would the powers-that-be-lurking prevent it from happening?
I thought Ron Paul was the best candidate in last years election, I went with change. If Paul wins the Republican ticket, Obama will be a one-term guy.
Ron Paul can't win the GOP nomination. There would be a floor fight on the convention to prevent if it came to it, but it won't come to it.
Ron Paul also couldn't win the election. At best he could pull a Barry Goldwater and lose spectacularly but manage to completely reshape the political landscape to such a point that his ideas become a huge part of the Republican party, eventually redefining the party. And lose spectacularly he would, at best I could see him pulling around 7 states, and that's being generous. Alaska, New Hampshire, Utah, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, and maybe West Virginia are about the only places I could see him making a play in.
I say all of this as a huge fan of Congressman Paul. I've met him and talked with him at length, and was completely enamored in 2008. I don't think he'd be right for America as President at this time, but he is likely the most honest and ethical man in Washington.
I thought Ron Paul was the best candidate in last years election, I went with change. If Paul wins the Republican ticket, Obama will be a one-term guy.
I thought Ron Paul was the best candidate in last years election, I went with change. If Paul wins the Republican ticket, Obama will be a one-term guy.
lol
Why is this funny? If Ron Paul wins the republican ticket, like LD just said, that is a big "if". That is the only way the Republican's will beat Obama, people are still on the Obama high and will still vote for him. Newt is an old lobbyist' Mitt flips and flops like a fish out of water. Perry is a homophobic and will never win. Herman Cain had a shot, he is blacker than Obama, but his love for the women may have been his downfall. which is weird, because the front runner Newt has his own women affairs. Huntsman, I to need to check him out some more. But I think he comes from money and I can see him being bought. Paul seems to be the only honest guy out there.
and yes Obama has let me down, his first two years he had a Democratic congress and what got done? Nothing!
Can someone explain Paul's ideals on not regulating the free market and why he is wrong on this?
Post by Laggy.RETURNS on Dec 21, 2011 9:19:42 GMT -5
Here's the thing about Obama- he TRIES to do alot of great things. The problem is that he's cock-blocked every step of the way by congress. Even when he had the democratic majority in both houses, red state democrats sided with republicans to block most of his legislation. So basically he can't get much done. The thing that frustrates me about Obama is that he takes it like a biznatch. He gets quacked over and over and continues to kiss right wing ass to appease them. Also, his priorities are all backwards. Basically the entire time he had both houses of congress as a democratic majority he spent trying to pass his health care legislation. I think the legislation was a great idea, but it shouldn't have been the top priority at this point in time. Had he focused on other more important things during this period, like tax reform and financial regulation, maybe he could have gotten some more important things accomplished
Ron Paul is a nice person, and an honest politician. He has strong values, but those values are very very conservative- When it comes to economics he's the most conservative person running for president. Ron Paul supports:
Abolishing Medicare Abolishing Medicaid Abolishing Social Security Abolishing unemployment benefits Abolishing the minimum wage laws Abolishing most federal agencies (DOE, DOC, DOL, etc.) Abolishing the Federal Reserve Returning to the Gold Standard Absolute laissez-faire capitalism (no regulations, no taxes on income, capital gains, etc.)
I'm certain Ron Paul isn't intentionally a corporate lap-dog, and bought off by lobbyists, but nonetheless his policies would hugely benefit the top earners and basically quack over the poor and working class.
The thing that frustrates me about Obama is that he takes it like a biznatch. He gets quacked over and over and continues to kiss right wing ass to appease them.
This. It seems like he has finally started fighting back calling Boehner out over the payroll tax cut extension. I understand that he tries to get everyone to the table/make peace/etc. but that should only go so far.
Are you satisfied with Obama's job as our president?
To be honest I just wanted to post the link to that site because I thought the layout was pretty funny. I knew you didn't mean like literally nothing at all.
And no I'm not really satisfied with his job so far. There's just nothing at all about any of the Republican candidates at this point that doesn't make me think "Oh shit, this guy(gal) is going to be our president?!" Granted, I can only think of about two instances in my 5.5 years of voting where I voted Republican.