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IU is ending their year at 5-6 on the road, 6-6 away from Assembly. Obviously not great, but not as terrible as you've been spewing Pondo.
I agree. Their conference record will be around 500 which is still OK. There road record overall is kinda suspect still. I don't expect much out of this team in the tournament (A sweet 16 is prolly about as far as I could see them, depending on seeding maybe worse). Did you not read my post on IU winning finally on the road? Team depends way too much on the three and if Zeller gets in foul trouble, they are in trouble.
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Gotta mention Mike Brey, head coach for ND, as a possible COTY. Only team to beat Syracuse and have been without their best player the entire year.
Brey would likely be Big East COTY but will not garner much national attention. Jim Boeheim would also be a contender, but I think the Bernie Fine story/situation might scare voters off. Somebody mentioned Bill Self and yes, he could be thrown in as well but since Haith is FOR 100% SURE gonna win the Big 12 COTY, that kinda makes little sense then.
Izzo SHOULD have been thrown in by me...that was a nice mention by someone and an oversight by me. They were a top 10 team early however they played a brutal schedule and rebounded nicely (pun intended). I think Haith really has the inside track right now. First year coach of a top 6 club.
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IU is ending their year at 5-6 on the road, 6-6 away from Assembly. Obviously not great, but not as terrible as you've been spewing Pondo.
I agree. Their conference record will be around 500 which is still OK. There road record overall is kinda suspect still. I don't expect much out of this team in the tournament (A sweet 16 is prolly about as far as I could see them, depending on seeding maybe worse). Did you not read my post on IU winning finally on the road? Team depends way too much on the three and if Zeller gets in foul trouble, they are in trouble.
Have you even watched an IU game this year? I think we almost agree on how good this team is but for completely different reasons. The team doesn't depend on the three at all. They're a ridiculously good three point shooting team, they also hardly attempt them. I'm pretty sure they're first or second in the Big Ten in % and last in attempts. If anything, they don't put up enough threes when it matters.
Your Zeller point is wrong too. He's had a huge impact on the team, but he isn't the team. It hurts IU way more when Watford or Hulls slumps than when Zeller sits.
I think IU is one of the best 15 teams in the nation. I think Kentucky is probably the best team in the nation, as much as it pains me to say. I don't think either will win a National Championship this year.
So apparently SI is releasing a scandalous story about its players and NO NO WORD!!! use tomorrow that could have serious consequences for UCLA basketball. Not sure how true it is but word is the school has already hired a PR firm to deal with the negative backlash. Would be a shame if true. West coast basketball is always better when the Arizona and UCLA is relevant. If they end up with major sanctions there is going to be no competition in the PAC-12 the next couple years
Small difference... Our chances are 50/50. Yours are like 2%.
A team has to be completely dominant to have a 50% chance at a National Championship three weeks before the tournament even starts. Like, best team in the last 15 years type good.
Obviously they're the favorite at this point, but realistically there's a much better chance they don't win it than they do.
Post by klimfactor on Feb 28, 2012 22:38:55 GMT -5
There's a heck of a lot of shakeup at this point in the season. All the prognosticators had MSU as a #1 seed. That's surely up in the air now. Maybe UNC will get back in the running, especially if they win the ACC tourney.
How is Michigan State ranked higher than UNC? UNC has 1 less loss and beat Michigan State
That was the first game of the season. Some teams progress more than others over the course of the season while others digress. This is a pretty simple concept, overall records aren't the best indicator of who the best team is, neither is a victory 4 months ago.
Post by klimfactor on Feb 29, 2012 13:47:26 GMT -5
I agree. MSU under Izzo always has been the kind of team that gets better and better as the season progresses. Some coaches have a knack for being able to do that.
I agree. MSU under Izzo always has been the kind of team that gets better and better as the season progresses. Some coaches have a knack for being able to do that.
This is one of the reasons I like the IU win so much. MSU was really hot coming in.
Really hot. That was a great win, even if it was at home. Indiana's got some great pieces, and they're pretty young, too. If everyone stays, they're going to be a Top 5 team next year and a near certain national title contender.
Really hot. That was a great win, even if it was at home. Indiana's got some great pieces, and they're pretty young, too. If everyone stays, they're going to be a Top 5 team next year and a near certain national title contender.
Actually I will agree with you. they have to get MUCH better point guard play and they cannot lose Zeller. Experts have him being a mid-round 1st round pick.They also must improve on meaningless games (Nebraska, Minnesota). You cannot lose these games and be considered a contender. If they keep all their talent and get better point guard play, they could be a top ten team next year.
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I'd be willing to put money on Kentucky getting beat by a Big Ten school in the tourney.
Fair enuff. How much? I can go as high as $500.00.
First off it is a fools bet to make, since only 6 teams from your Big Ten will be in the tournament, and unless you think MSU or OSU is gonna drop to a 3 seed, we might play one big ten team to get to the final four. There are NO guarentees we will even play a Big Ten team...But I will take your money with ease. I just accepeted your bet. Now how much would you like to wager? Usually there is what, 72 hours to accept a wager...
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How is Michigan State ranked higher than UNC? UNC has 1 less loss and beat Michigan State
Florida State beat UNC by more than 30 points. That alone should answer that question. uNC will move up now that they beat one-dimensional Duke (who lost 3 home games this year). They looked good in doing so as well. I think UNC honestly is the 4th best team in the country so they should get a #1 seed.
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How is Michigan State ranked higher than UNC? UNC has 1 less loss and beat Michigan State
Florida State beat UNC by more than 30 points. That alone should answer that question. uNC will move up now that they beat one-dimensional Duke (who lost 3 home games this year). They looked good in doing so as well. I think UNC honestly is the 4th best team in the country so they should get a #1 seed.
If UNC wins the ACC tourney, they should be the #3 overall, assuming UK and Cuse don't lose in their conference tournaments.
I know you think UK has no chance of losing ever, but if a team not named Cuse could do it, it'd be UNC. They can score with any team in the country, including UK, so if they are playing well they have a shot.
The team that is flying under the radar right now is Marquette. 13-2 in there last 15 games and, despite losing to Cinnci, they are playing great defense and smart basketball.
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Florida State beat UNC by more than 30 points. That alone should answer that question. uNC will move up now that they beat one-dimensional Duke (who lost 3 home games this year). They looked good in doing so as well. I think UNC honestly is the 4th best team in the country so they should get a #1 seed.
If UNC wins the ACC tourney, they should be the #3 overall, assuming UK and Cuse don't lose in their conference tournaments.
I know you think UK has no chance of losing ever, but if a team not named Cuse could do it, it'd be UNC. They can score with any team in the country, including UK, so if they are playing well they have a shot.
Not true. I could see UK losing. Any team can be beaten. Heck we played horrible against Florida and could have lost had they hit their three pointers, box out better and play interior defense. Remember, our only loss came this year after a team hit 7 three pointers in a row. What do you think the chances of that happening on a neutral court site? Your coach will decide how far UNC goes. And, if Kansas wins the Big 12, no way they are not the Number 3 seed. Big 12 is loaded and ACC has three, maybe 4 good teams at best.
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So apparently SI is releasing a scandalous story about its players and NO NO WORD!!! use tomorrow that could have serious consequences for UCLA basketball. Not sure how true it is but word is the school has already hired a PR firm to deal with the negative backlash. Would be a shame if true. West coast basketball is always better when the Arizona and UCLA is relevant. If they end up with major sanctions there is going to be no competition in the PAC-12 the next couple years
outside of Washington, was there competition this year? Pac-12 had an absolutely HORRIBLE year. Shame too because it should not have been that bad.
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If UNC wins the ACC tourney, they should be the #3 overall, assuming UK and Cuse don't lose in their conference tournaments.
I know you think UK has no chance of losing ever, but if a team not named Cuse could do it, it'd be UNC. They can score with any team in the country, including UK, so if they are playing well they have a shot.
Not true. I could see UK losing. Any team can be beaten. Heck we played horrible against Florida and could have lost had they hit their three pointers, box out better and play interior defense. Remember, our only loss came this year after a team hit 7 three pointers in a row. What do you think the chances of that happening on a neutral court site? Your coach will decide how far UNC goes. And, if Kansas wins the Big 12, no way they are not the Number 3 seed. Big 12 is loaded and ACC has three, maybe 4 good teams at best.
I was exaggerating, I know you don't really think that.
And Kansas needs UNC to lose in the ACC tourney to leapfrog them. If they both win the tourney, UNC gets the nod.
The last 2 #1 seeds are still up in the air. The winners of the ACC & Big 12 tourney should get them (assuming the winners are Duke/UNC and Mizzou/Kansas). Had MSU won yesterday they would have had a chance to get one by winning the Big 10 tourney, but its a 4 horse race at this point.
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Depends on who UNC plays to win the ACC. If it is not Duke, no one cares.
I think if either of those 2 win the ACC, regardless of who they play in the championship, they will get a 1 seed. Both Kansas & Mizzou aren't going to get one and I don't see Marquette being able to jump over all of those teams, even if they win the Big East tourney, but I suppose if all 4 of those teams lose out early in their conference tourneys and Marquette wins theirs, I could't really argue against them getting it.
