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Really hot. That was a great win, even if it was at home. Indiana's got some great pieces, and they're pretty young, too. If everyone stays, they're going to be a Top 5 team next year and a near certain national title contender.
Actually I will agree with you. they have to get MUCH better point guard play and they cannot lose Zeller. Experts have him being a mid-round 1st round pick.They also must improve on meaningless games (Nebraska, Minnesota). You cannot lose these games and be considered a contender. If they keep all their talent and get better point guard play, they could be a top ten team next year.
Tom Crean is bringing in one of the best point guards next year, Kevin Ferrell. He's a five-star stud, which should help them immediately if Zeller doesn't leave. They're also bringing in a top flight power forward/4. By the way, as an Ohio State fan, I hate typing that.
We got Yogi, Hollowell, Perea and Jurkin all coming in next year. The incoming class ranks as high as 2 in national recruiting. IU is also returning every great player they already have, plus a few more freshman who haven't seen many minutes this year, like Abell and Etherington. Zeller is staying for at least three years. Kid values education and goes to the business school here. He also wants to be one of the IU greats. And unlike klim I absolutely love typing all of that.
Post by Homer J. Fong on Mar 6, 2012 11:56:28 GMT -5
I hope you're all ready for UConn to once again, starting from the #9 spot, sweep the rest of the season. 5 in NYC, 6 in the NCAAs, one more in the rafters.
All kidding aside, if I was one of the top teams in the country I'd be abjectly terrified to get this Connecticut team in the second round of the NCAA tournament. I don't know if they can put it together for long enough to make a run, but if they're a 10 seed and win their opening game against a 7, what 2-seed is going to want to deal with that?
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I think UConn has to win the Big east to get in. If you had Kemba...I would say you have a chance.
You're the only one thinking that. Despite an 18-12 record (8-10 in the Big East), UConn owns the #2 SoS, an RPI of 33, and a 5-6 record against the RPI top-50. Every major college basketball analyst has them in the NCAAs, albeit as a lower seed (usually around 10). Doug Gottlieb said it best: when it comes to UConn and the tournament, your eyes say "no," but the numbers say "yes." Barring a loss to DePaul in today's game, they're in.
I think UConn is definitely in, after their win today. A loss to WVU may create some doubters, but I still think they will get in. I think they could play their way up to a 7, but might max out at 8 or 9, but in an effort to protect the 1 seeds they may keep them at a 7 or 10. And being how the NCAA seems to love to create intriguing matchups, I'm sure if Duke gets a 2 seed they will be matched up against them, at which point I'll be very nervous.
Depends on who UNC plays to win the ACC. If it is not Duke, no one cares.
Coming from the guy who roots for an SEC team. (insert childish giggles here)
And UCONN is a scary low-seed, they have talent and play in the most NBA-style conference (meaning it's a conference for grown ass men, dawg) where they play an extremely physical style of ball.
Post by Homer J. Fong on Mar 6, 2012 16:12:13 GMT -5
I honestly don't know. I've watched every UConn game this year, and sometimes they look incredible (the second half against Syracuse two weeks ago was some of the best basketball I've seen all year), but other times they look like absolute garbage (inexplicably losing to Providence two days later). They can't put it together for a full 40, it seems - they either start off slow, and have to play catch up, or run out to a big lead and can't hold it. No idea why that's the case, but it is what it is.
I think they take WVU tomorrow, and set up the 3rd game against 'Cuse for Thursday. I see them as either a 7 or a 10 seed, because I agree, the committee will "protect" the #1 seed and drop UConn down a line (or bump them up) to put them in the same side as the #2 instead.
UConn's won 5 of their last 14 games, with at best one of those wins coming against a tournament team, and yet one of the 8 best teams in the country should be worried about facing them in the second round of the tournament? I don't see it.
Obviously I'm not saying it's not possible for them to upset a 1 or 2, but besides half a game against Syracuse they haven't done anything impressive in almost two months.
As a UConn fan I have to say that this is probably the most disappointing season I've seen and I've been following them since the 70's. So much talent and such lofty expectations and such pitiful results.
That being said the infusion of a presumably healthier Calhoun to a talent-laden team could wake them from their coma. I'm pretty sure they will make the tournament and nobody, regardless of how high they are seeded, will want to face them. No way they will march to the title again but they will certainly be viewed as very dangerous by every coach that faces them
UConn's won 5 of their last 14 games, with at best one of those wins coming against a tournament team, and yet one of the 8 best teams in the country should be worried about facing them in the second round of the tournament? I don't see it.
Obviously I'm not saying it's not possible for them to upset a 1 or 2, but besides half a game against Syracuse they haven't done anything impressive in almost two months.
Its not their resume that has people worried, its their talent level in a win or go home situation that provides the recipe for a probable "upset."
UConn's won 5 of their last 14 games, with at best one of those wins coming against a tournament team, and yet one of the 8 best teams in the country should be worried about facing them in the second round of the tournament? I don't see it.
Obviously I'm not saying it's not possible for them to upset a 1 or 2, but besides half a game against Syracuse they haven't done anything impressive in almost two months.
Its not their resume that has people worried, its their talent level in a win or go home situation that provides the recipe for a probable "upset."
Right. But my point is that while there is obviously the potential for their talent to take them into the second weekend, they haven't shown that talent (for the most part) since early to mid-January. I guess I just don't buy into the whole "Coach Calhoun is back! They're gaining momentum!" thing just because they beat Pitt at home in a somewhat close game and now beat the worst team in the Big East in MSG.
P.S. I know no one on here was saying that, but Andy Katz and someone else on ESPN sure were.
I wouldn't count out WVU tomorrow. They've kind of got their backs up against the coal mine, so they might play inspired ball. Plus, they've won two in a row, and narrowly lost to Marquette three games ago.
Its not their resume that has people worried, its their talent level in a win or go home situation that provides the recipe for a probable "upset."
Right. But my point is that while there is obviously the potential for their talent to take them into the second weekend, they haven't shown that talent (for the most part) since early to mid-January. I guess I just don't buy into the whole "Coach Calhoun is back! They're gaining momentum!" thing just because they beat Pitt at home in a somewhat close game and now beat the worst team in the Big East in MSG.
P.S. I know no one on here was saying that, but Andy Katz and someone else on ESPN sure were.
Right, and it's the fact that they haven't really displayed that talent on a consistent basis that will keep them as a lower seed. But the existence of that talent will put worry into their opponents. It's not like this is some mid-major team that scrapped its way to a tourney berth. This is a team presently boasting (at least) two future NBA lottery picks which has underachieved thus far. I don't know if they can put it together long enough to make a serious run in the NCAAs, but any team that plays them will likely be justifiably wary.
Last year UConn won just 4 of their last 11 games. This year they won 6 of their last 15 (if you want to use the same timespan, they also won 4 of their last 11 this year).
You sound like everybody in the country, circa the Big East tournament 2011.
Bringing Kemba's Madukes to sit courtside was a nice touch, but even that isn't going to spark last year's magic.
Uconn just doesn't have the depth and they have no Kemba. Lamb is capable of lighting a fire and he's proving so with his 47 points (I think) in 2 games.
But 'Cuse has it all up and down the bench. Fab Melo, Christmas, Jardin. They just over match every player on UConn, maybe except Drummond. He is a beast.
Bringing Kemba's Madukes to sit courtside was a nice touch, but even that isn't going to spark last year's magic.
Uconn just doesn't have the depth and they have no Kemba. Lamb is capable of lighting a fire and he's proving so with his 47 points (I think) in 2 games.
But 'Cuse has it all up and down the bench. Fab Melo, Christmas, Jardin. They just over match every player on UConn, maybe except Drummond. He is a beast.
I can understand you saying that UConn doesn't have Kemba. And that's a huge loss to bear. But how can you say that they don't have the depth? Essentially they lost only Kemba last year and gained Boatwright and Drummond. To add to that they have a much improved Olander not to mention a year's worth of experience for everybody else that played last year. It makes no sense at all. So to me the only argument is that they don't have Kemba anymore. And maybe that will prove to be the difference as to why they don't win.
I can tell you one thing. Boeheim is facing his nightmare scenario tomorrow. Maybe it will work out OK for the 'Cuse but I'm sure he would rather be facing WVU than UConn right now. And if UConn does beat Syracuse it will make the final very interesting.
Damn. I thought UConn had it - unfortunately, Syracuse finally started hitting shots and UConn went ice cold. Didn't help that Lamb forgot that he had been unstoppable for the first 5 halves of basketball he'd played in the Big East Tournament, or that Napier decided he was just too good to be stopped. Mental breakdowns against a team that will take advantage to such things, pure and simple. When Drummond put back that missed 3 pointer with a crazy one handed slam, I was like "done."
Ah well. They've played the #2 team in the country as close as anyone has all year, twice in two weeks. They'll get a low seed in the NCAAs, no pressure, and hopefully can make it fun. We'll see what's gangster.
Lunardi currently has them as a 10 seed, which is ludicrous. They are definitely better than all current 8-9 seeds and most 7 seeds, Creighton being the only debatable team. I was hoping with today's game they could play their way up to a 6 seed, to avoid meeting them in the second round, I guess we will know Sunday.
Post by Homer J. Fong on Mar 8, 2012 16:15:17 GMT -5
I actually like them as a #10 seed. The record is spotty, but I wonder what happens over that 8-game stretch where Calhoun was out with back surgery if he's around? I bet they don't got 3-5. They also lost 3 close games in a row in January by a combined total of 8 points (to Cincy, @ Tennessee, vs. Notre Dame). I think they're better than the record by a fair margin. If they're a 9 or a 10, I'd have to imagine no #1 or #2 seed will want to deal with them in the second game.
Wow. That Cincy-Georgetown game was awesome. A ton of high-pressure shots at the end of regulation and the two OTs. Now, Cincy and their tired legs get to move on. ... to get stomped by Syracuse.
Being a huge Univ of Tennessee we need a big win tonight to help our cause for a possible NCAA berth. If we can pick up two wins in the SEC Tourney it should be enough especially with Miss State losing last night
