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Laughed out loud at this. It's Lil B. I'm pretty sure there isn't a single person here who doesn't "get it".
I've been avoiding this discussion but the De La Soul comparison got to me. Lil B really isn't that good, and comparing him to Tribe or De La Soul is an insult. Those people were new and fresh yeah, but they had amazing talent. That's why we are still talking about them today. In 10 years we wont be talking about Lil B. Hell, we probably wont even be talking about him by this time next year.
Last Edit: May 21, 2012 8:12:49 GMT -5 by bansheebeat - Back to Top
Post by kidabstract on May 21, 2012 9:47:07 GMT -5
Two things:
1. I come from the school of Illmatic, Low End Theory, Enter The Wu-Tang, and ATLiens. Get off your high horse, if there is good hip hop out there then I have probably already listened to it and liked it.
2. Do you not remember how goofy De La and ATCQ(especially in their early days) were? The comparison was being made because like those two acts, lil b is having FUN with his music. When I wrote it, I honestly thought it would be easily comprehensible. Sorry.
Flanzo, I would respond more in depth but it seems like this conversation has gotten pretty emotional for you, and honestly...even though there's a lot of text in that post, you really didn't say anything at all.
Again, it sounds like you're taking the art too seriously....
And, again, STOPPPPPPPPPPPP comparing Lil' B to ATCQ or De La Soul, or ANY accomplished act from that era. It's asinine and just flat-out wrong. Two incredibly influential and storied hip-hop acts vs. a guy who hasn't done anything. It's insane that you feel it's valid.
Also, as a bit of advice, you shouldn't think I truly care about this conversation. I think of you martians like I do any other group of young people gravitating to whatever the latest "cool" thing is. You just happen to pick a talentless bozo to worship instead of fashionistas, actors, or whatever else your generation takes its cues from.
I'm sure the f'ing Wiggles have fun with their music, does that mean I should accept it as something I want to sit and listen to? Your criteria for what makes good music, or what makes music listenable, is all over the map and pretty confusing.
And just because you didn't read my post fully doesn't mean I didn't "say anything." I made plenty of valid points and your lack of any intelligent response tells me you simply don't/won't have one. Enjoy your crappy hip-pop, I won't get between you and THIS lyrical mastery:
Ima die with thirty b*tches on my d*ck, a hundred b*tches on my d*ck, thirty b*tches on my d*ck I GOT B*TCHES CUZ, AW DAMN I GOT B*TCHES, AW DAMN, BASED GOD, PRETTY BOY, AW DAMN I GOT B*TCHES, AWWWW Quack
I'll stick with:
Q-Tip is my title. I dont think that is vital for me to be your idol, But dig this recital. If you can't envision a brother who ain't dissin', Slingin' this and that, 'cause this and that was missin'. Instead, it's been injected, the Tribe has been perfected. Oh yes, it's been selected, the art makes it protected. Afrocentric livin', Africans be givin' A lot to the cause 'cause the cause has been risen. Some brothers, they be flammin', thinkin' we ain't slammin, Comin' off like the days where we used to wear the tans and A blue-colllar talker, a hemisphere stalker, A glass of O.J and a ten mile walk-a. If you're in a Jeep and you dig what you're hearin', Can I get a beep and a ? of cheerin'? I am what I am, that's a tribal man. We all know the colours, we all must stand. As we start our travels, things they will unravel. "Que sera sera", for this unit is like gravel. Won't be gone for long, listen to the song. If you can't pull it, all ya gotta do is
Your criteria for what makes good music, or what makes music listenable, is all over the map and pretty confusing.
THIS IS THE BEST QUOTE DESCRIBING MY TASTE IN MUSIC THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN.
I'm also a big fan of Herbie Hanfleshy banana, Quincey Jones, Otis Redding, Blink 182, Nas, Radiohead, The Misfits, J Dilla, Flying Lotus, Aphex Twin, Burial, Gangstar, Quantic, Wu-Tang Clan, Outkast, Animal Collective, Deadmau5, the Punch Brothers, Allman Brothers Band, The Who, Sly Stone, and who knows how many others.
Was this a lil wayne reference? I can't stand lil wayne.
Neither can I (at least since he started sounding like a robot and dry-humping the stages while on happy pills). "Martian," for you youngsters, is a term referring to life forms that originate on Mars, which is where I assume most Lil' B fans come from.
I'm also a big fan of Herbie Hanfleshy banana, Quincey Jones, Otis Redding, Blink 182, Nas, Radiohead, The Misfits, J Dilla, Flying Lotus, Aphex Twin, Burial, Gangstar, Quantic, Wu-Tang Clan, Outkast, Animal Collective, Deadmau5, the Punch Brothers, Allman Brothers Band, The Who, Sly Stone, and who knows how many others.
Dear new guy,
When trying to gain respect on a music discussion board, when listing your acts you're a "fan" of, please be aware that misspelling Gang Starr (two words, two r's) and including Blink-182 (spelled properly or otherwise), will do more harm than good.
I feel like this is where I need to come clean with you, flanzo.
I dig I'm Gay (I'm Happy). It is the only thing of his I listened to, but I thought it was pretty good. I will admit that the only time I notice lyrics is when they are ludicrously good, though.
I feel like this is where I need to come clean with you, flanzo.
I dig I'm Gay (I'm Happy). It is the only thing of his I listened to, but I thought it was pretty good. I will admit that the only time I notice lyrics is when they are ludicrously good, though.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
I would like to also cite Blink-182 as something I can enjoy, but instead of using it to highlight my diverse tastes, I would like to point to the fact that I can obviously enjoy sh*tty music with absolutely no problem.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Was this a lil wayne reference? I can't stand lil wayne.
Neither can I (at least since he started sounding like a robot and dry-humping the stages while on happy pills). "Martian," for you youngsters, is a term referring to life forms that originate on Mars, which is where I assume most Lil' B fans come from.
I'm also a big fan of Herbie Hanfleshy banana, Quincey Jones, Otis Redding, Blink 182, Nas, Radiohead, The Misfits, J Dilla, Flying Lotus, Aphex Twin, Burial, Gangstar, Quantic, Wu-Tang Clan, Outkast, Animal Collective, Deadmau5, the Punch Brothers, Allman Brothers Band, The Who, Sly Stone, and who knows how many others.
Dear new guy,
When trying to gain respect on a music discussion board, when listing your acts you're a "fan" of, please be aware that misspelling Gang Starr (two words, two r's) and including Blink-182 (spelled properly or otherwise), will do more harm than good.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
I would like to also cite Blink-182 as something I can enjoy, but instead of using it to highlight my diverse tastes, I would like to point to the fact that I can obviously enjoy sh*tty music with absolutely no problem.
I'm just not sure I like the thought process there.
I would like to also cite Blink-182 as something I can enjoy, but instead of using it to highlight my diverse tastes, I would like to point to the fact that I can obviously enjoy sh*tty music with absolutely no problem.
I'm just not sure I like the thought process there.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
And according to your profile your Flanzo you're only 4 years older than me
Yes, don't think the seemingly minor age gap has gone unnoticed. This leads me to three conclusions: first, I hate the generation I'm supposedly a part of but seemingly so disconnected from, second, I'm officially an old man, and third, GET OFF MY LAWN!
Post by kidabstract on May 21, 2012 10:50:58 GMT -5
I think the underlying point that I was trying to make with Lil B is that music is free expression. FREE.
There is no scientific reason for a human being to express themselves. They just do. That's why it's beautiful. Its US. You can't fault some one(like lil b) for expressing themselves genuinely.
That's why I separate Lil B from some one like Lil Wayne or Gucci. Taking the artistic integrity out of the music and only making it for money infuriates me. That's what mainstream rappers like Jeezy and Weezy and whoever do. Meanwhile, Lil B has worn the same pair of shoes for the last year.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
That's why I separate Lil B from some one like Lil Wayne or Gucci. Taking the artistic integrity out of the music and only making it for money infuriates me. That's what mainstream rappers like Jeezy and Weezy and whoever do. Meanwhile, Lil B has worn the same pair of shoes for the last year.
That's why I separate Lil B from some one like Lil Wayne or Gucci. Taking the artistic integrity out of the music and only making it for money infuriates me. That's what mainstream rappers like Jeezy and Weezy and whoever do. Meanwhile, Lil B has worn the same pair of shoes for the last year.
You don't think Lil' B is trying to get pizzaid?
Of course he is. Anybody that devotes that much time to music better be, he isn't going to college or anything after all. Gotta make a career out of something.
But the mentality and approach is completely different.
As I said when I first posted in this thread, when it comes to music nowadays I want something that is either fresh or something that is pushing the envelope. Anything less usually bores me.
Lil B is "fresh". Especially when considering the state of hip hop during the last decade.
