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For the record moderation team, and I'm posting this here because I'm sure you'll look in this thread, I do chat in the place of unnamed terror. So I guess I should probably be banned for not breaking any rules like nodepression, willsfc, and all the other bros. I just figured what's fair is fair.
It seems to me this "trademark infringement" is just an excuse for mods to go after people they don't like.
If they were truly concerned with punishing the act of entering that chat room, the moderators would have punished anyone who said they've used that chat room. Yet wolf & I have both admitted the same thing. Wolf got banned for admitting it, but when I brought it up roofan told me there was a new chat in the works. Whatever y'all want to call that, I don't think that "fair" is an appropriate descriptor. I think it is also worth noting that roofan did not bother to dispute wolf's assertion that he was breaking no rules... because wolf broke no rules, and they both know it.
This is not a crackdown on behavior that moderators do not like; this is a crackdown on people that moderators do not like. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's not cool by me.
Mods: People you do not like have a right to be here, whether you like it or not, so long as they follow the rules. Around here we have rules which apply to all people, and if they break rules you're welcome to punish them. However, punishing people because you don't like them and punishing people because they break rules are two different things. I hate to say it, but it seems to me that y'all are only doing one of these things, and it ain't the right one.
Damn I got some haters in here. -10 awesome points.. haha i can t believe they have things on here to pass judgment on people. Not the true spirit of roo thats for sure.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Apr 7, 2011 9:01:32 GMT -5
Something tells me we aren't going to get any explanation, kdogg, let alone a response. I, too, used chat and received no sort of punishment. More shenanigal evidence.
For the record moderation team, and I'm posting this here because I'm sure you'll look in this thread, I do chat in the place of unnamed terror. So I guess I should probably be banned for not breaking any rules like nodepression, willsfc, and all the other bros. I just figured what's fair is fair.
It seems to me this "trademark infringement" is just an excuse for mods to go after people they don't like.
If they were truly concerned with punishing the act of entering that chat room, the moderators would have punished anyone who said they've used that chat room. Yet wolf & I have both admitted the same thing. Wolf got banned for admitting it, but when I brought it up roofan told me there was a new chat in the works. Whatever y'all want to call that, I don't think that "fair" is an appropriate descriptor. I think it is also worth noting that roofan did not bother to dispute wolf's assertion that he was breaking no rules... because wolf broke no rules, and they both know it.
This is not a crackdown on behavior that moderators do not like; this is a crackdown on people that moderators do not like. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's not cool by me.
Mods: People you do not like have a right to be here, whether you like it or not, so long as they follow the rules. Around here we have rules which apply to all people, and if they break rules you're welcome to punish them. However, punishing people because you don't like them and punishing people because they break rules are two different things. I hate to say it, but it seems to me that y'all are only doing one of these things, and it ain't the right one.
Shenanigans are definitely afoot.
kdogg, you posted it yourself at the top....wolf ASKED FOR IT, Explicitly asked for it....as in "PLEASE MODS BAN ME" basically. All I did was give him what he asked for.
I saw your post, you never explicitly ASKED us to ban you. If you want to be banned kdogg, I will ban you, all you have to do is ask, like wolf did.
I really dont see what is so hard to understand about wolf. I didnt ban curtbee so I cant answer for that one. As I also cant say whether you will get an explanation on him, as all I can speak on is wolf. I think I have proven time and time again around here that I am NOT afraid to come in and explain myself. I take a little offense to that accusation kdogg. I am ALWAYS ready to explain myself.
But, basically to sum it up. From my perspective at least, it has nothing to do with not liking a particular person, or thier actions. This particualr individual ASKED to be banned. I simply complied with his wishes....
Something tells me we aren't going to get any explanation, kdogg, let alone a response. I, too, used chat and received no sort of punishment. More shenanigal evidence.
You shouldn't listen to "something", it is often as wrong as "they"
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Something tells me we aren't going to get any explanation, kdogg, let alone a response. I, too, used chat and received no sort of punishment. More shenanigal evidence.
You shouldn't listen to "something", it is often as wrong as "they"
Well it seems to me what Wolf really said is if you ban Nod and the others it is only fair to ban him too. Now that the bans have been lifted on others it only seems fair to unban Wolf too.
Not unbanning him implies some sort of personal vendetta.
Ok - this is where I can air a "general grievance"?
I have really turned into more and more of a lurker lately because of all the crap like this - it's the freakin' internet - it's not real life - people take stuff way way too seriously on here - if you don't like something about Inforoo - walk away - if you don't like how it is being run - go away - no one forces you to stay - and no one really wants to hear everyone bitch, moan and complain about the way Inforoo is run - there's the door - use it!
Seriously - Inforoo is a wonderful place full of great people - I have bunches of people on here that i consider real friends and have met dozens and dozens of these people IRL. These are people that I consider such good friends that when my daughter was driving to Nashville, I gave her a list of everyone's name and number along the way and told her to call one of them if she ran into trouble and could not get ahold of me because i knew they would take care of her.
This is a family here - the bans/suspensions are because people are not following the rules and Adam makes the rules - the mods just enforce them - if you don'e like it - see my first paragraph - no one is keeping you here by force. The mods do the best they can but they are human and have feelings and emotions also - they are not always going to be impartial - so get over it. I've gotten on their bad side also - don't think I haven't in the 5 years I've been on here. But they are human and do a really great job of keeping this place going.
You know if I had asked to be banned, and wanted it undone I might just post in the solar stage from a guest account and ask. I mean it is not like it is hard to get back on here and apologize. I don't know if it would work or not but that is my 2 cents worth on the matter.
Ok - this is where I can air a "general grievance"?
I have really turned into more and more of a lurker lately because of all the crap like this - it's the freakin' internet - it's not real life - people take stuff way way too seriously on here - if you don't like something about Inforoo - walk away - if you don't like how it is being run - go away - no one forces you to stay - and no one really wants to hear everyone bitch, moan and complain about the way Inforoo is run - there's the door - use it!
Seriously - Inforoo is a wonderful place full of great people - I have bunches of people on here that i consider real friends and have met dozens and dozens of these people IRL. These are people that I consider such good friends that when my daughter was driving to Nashville, I gave her a list of everyone's name and number along the way and told her to call one of them if she ran into trouble and could not get ahold of me because i knew they would take care of her.
This is a family here - the bans/suspensions are because people are not following the rules and Adam makes the rules - the mods just enforce them - if you don'e like it - see my first paragraph - no one is keeping you here by force. The mods do the best they can but they are human and have feelings and emotions also - they are not always going to be impartial - so get over it. I've gotten on their bad side also - don't think I haven't in the 5 years I've been on here. But they are human and do a really great job of keeping this place going.
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This. Honestly the MODs need to stop explaining anything at all. Do what you need to do, everyone else take a deep breath, press the power button on your computer, and please go out and try to get laid, thanks.
OK Sorry...NoD is right. Noone was banned, they were all suspeneded.
And yeah, I guess Jess has it right. Wolf was supended because he asked to be, if he wants back, I guess he can request it in the same manner that he requested his supension.
OK Sorry...NoD is right. Noone was banned, they were all suspeneded.
And yeah, I guess Jess has it right. Wolf was supended because he asked to be, if he wants back, I guess he can request it in the same manner that he requested his supension.
Um actually he can't. Unless of course you want him to break another rule and make a second account. Also last I spoke to Wolf he still had the "Sorry you have been banned" and not the "sorry you have been suspended until x".
I dont know that you ever get "You have been suspended" I think it always says "banned" no matter what. There isnt really a way to "suspend" someone. Esentially, it is a temporary ban, rather than a suspension. six/half dozen, same effect.
wolf was supended basically because he appeared to be pretty upset that he didnt get it along with the others, I just granted his request.
I am going to remove him from the ban list. It's only fair that all the others came back, he should be able to as well. (See? I can be reasonable!)
Once again, everyone else is out of my hands, I didnt "suspend" them so I cant bring them back, sorry. I dont really see Boothead or Emoney being allowed back though, Thats not my decision.
As far as some big drawn out explanation, well your just not going to get it. The simple fact is, I suspended him when he asked for it and forgot. I have had a few other things going on this week, as hard as that may be to believe!!
I am out of it now as wolf was the last member I have any control over bringing back....
I dont know that you ever get "You have been suspended" I think it always says "banned" no matter what. There isnt really a way to "suspend" someone. Esentially, it is a temporary ban, rather than a suspension. six/half dozen, same effect.
Actually that is not true. When one is banned you get something that says something along the lines of "Error you have been banned from the site" when you are suspended you get a "You have been suspended from this site until x date and x time"
But that is a moot point now. Thank you for freeing Wolf. Now we just need to get Adam in here to unban curt.