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What kind of country has the US become when people are attacking parents for letting their kids run around outside? What do you think kids in Tennessee do any other day of the year? They go outside, play in the mud, get sun on their face. Of course special attention needs to be paid to make sure that the kids don't get burned or run into people who will cause problems, but everyone who is going on about it being 'too hot' for kids is coming off as incredibly illogical. Kids don't live in bubbles 95% of the year and then suddenly get dragged to Bonnaroo and have their lives at risk. Yearh, it's hot in the south. It's hot in most of the world in the summer.
In my opinion, kids should be outside as often as possible - with preparation and simple safety, Bonnaroo isn't any more dangerous than a weekend spent at a busy beach. Let them live it up!
I do see what you all are saying about the heat here... Of course no one is knocking anyone for letting their children play outside. However, there is a big difference between kids just going out in their yard to play where they can run right back in the house for water and air, and a kid journeying through Bonnaroo. Bonnaroo is HUGE, it's A LOT of walking, and hours of heat every day. I think that was more the point we were trying to make.
Really the people who made me come to this conclusion are more the parents you see who keep their toddler at a show until 3am. Then again, I've only seen this once or twice. I'm sure most Bonnaroo parents are perfectly responsible.
Either way, I know if and when I have a kid, I would probably miss a year of Bonnaroo before I brought them with me, (unless they told me they wanted to come). Not just because of them, but also because I wouldn't be able to have as much fun either.
Post by hibouxdufromage on Jun 19, 2010 12:41:51 GMT -5
^this. I've been teaching preschool for several years now, and I know for a fact that my preschoolers behave better for me than they do for their parents. I still wouldn't take them out on the farm, too much chaos. I have a difficult enough time as it is keeping track of my adult friends, I'd probably have an aneurysm if a child I was responsible for wandered out of my sight for 10 seconds. (If I were a real parent or even if a few of my anklebiters and their parents went with me, I'm not talking about a class field long, strange trip here). I'm not saying that all parents should leave their children at home, I just wouldn't want to deal with that kind of responsibility in that particular situation.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2010 12:44:07 GMT -5 by hibouxdufromage - Back to Top
When you are a parent it becomes a lot easier to keep track of multiple people, not stress out about it and still enjoy what's going on around you. It's like a parenting instinct that kicks in.
You are also able to tell when you child is hungry, thirsty, or tired without them having to tell you. You just know what they need.
I really hope that as time goes on and people grow up they will realize that there are worse things you can do than take your kids camping and to concerts.
Post by msbrandymichelle on Jun 19, 2010 13:34:56 GMT -5
I think if I can manage to raise my kids for years & never lose them at a mall, parade, field trip, etc. I can probably manage for 3 1/2 days at Bonnaroo (honestly, it wasn't even difficult for me to keep track of them - holding hands works wonders). (We had numerous talks & behavior charts & viewings of pictures of Bonnaroo in order to teach them the importance of listening & minding instructions & what we were going to be in.)
I cloth diaper. I make my own vegan baby food. I coach cheerleading. I'm PTO president. I think that I know my capabilities as a parent & how to tend to my children a lot better than people that don't have children. Just sayin...
You subjected yourself to the heat & managed to survive. I can do the same w/ my children. My kids never once complained about the heat. Why would they w/ spray fans, water, parents carrying them, etc?
I don't really think my parenting choices are up for anyone's criticism. & it is extremely insulting for people to think they can look down on us for doing what we feel is best for our kids (did y'all ever consider how much planning, thought, talks, etc. went into play before we even bought our tickets for Bonnaroo?). My kids kept hydrated, never burned, never got exhausted, had a blast, ate well, & earned quite a few memories.
You really want to question parenting - let's think of the neglected children sitting inside all summer alone stuffing their faces w/ soda & Cheetos. Personally, I think that's a lot worse for children than getting out in some sun & experiencing something most parents wouldn't have the balls to do. Bonnaroo involved quite a sacrifice for my kids, but I did it. And I did a damn good job. Most parents wouldn't work so hard to bring experiences like this to their kids (my parents sure as hell didn't, they just put a tv & phone in my room & ignored me), so you should be grateful to us parents for raising such cool kids to inherit & rule this earth
....I don't really think my parenting choices are up for anyone's criticism. & it is extremely insulting for people to think they can look down on us for doing what we feel is best for our kids (did y'all ever consider how much planning, thought, talks, etc. went into play before we even bought our tickets for Bonnaroo?). My kids kept hydrated, never burned, never got exhausted, had a blast, ate well, & earned quite a few memories.
You really want to question parenting - let's think of the neglected children sitting inside all summer alone stuffing their faces w/ soda & Cheetos. Personally, I think that's a lot worse for children than getting out in some sun & experiencing something most parents wouldn't have the balls to do. Bonnaroo involved quite a sacrifice for my kids, but I did it. And I did a damn good job. Most parents wouldn't work so hard to bring experiences like this to their kids (my parents sure as hell didn't, they just put a tv & phone in my room & ignored me), so you should be grateful to us parents for raising such cool kids to inherit & rule this earth
Good point, msbrandy... Once again, I think we're really talking more about those parents less responsible than you. No one really is in a position to criticize, anyway, especially when you're as responsible as you seem to be. Sorry if you took what I said wrong, I don't mean to offend!
Post by hibouxdufromage on Jun 19, 2010 14:11:36 GMT -5
The only real criticism I have is for the people that were around my 8-month pregnant friend (the same one that shaggyforte was talking about) when I met up with her at Cafe Where, not one person offered to get up and let her have their seat. I mean, really? Everyone else's vagina hurt so bad she had to wait for me to show up with a camping chair for her to sit for a few mins?
not one person offered to get up and let her have their seat.
That's such Leno! I'm sorry. I wasn't even there and I'm sorry. That just smacks of entitlement issues and a total lack of compassion/consideration. Ridiculous.