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Uh just so you know, this is going to suck. I'm going to stop by for at least 15 minutes just to marvel at the awesome visual production but he's a really bad DJ. Everyone on the coachella board that just saw him at sasquatch all agreed that he was terrible. Just a heads up.
If you want good EDM head to the Lunar Stage or even Bassnectar is much better than Deadmau5.
actually everyone on the coachella boards that saw him at coachella said it was awesome. so stfu
Bingo. You pretty much have to be new into edm to like Deadmau5. I've never heard one person say they like Deadmau5 that has honestly listened to edm for more than two years. Yet I've heard endless kids and newbs sing his praises.
under normal circumstances i would say probably he would, but this year he has a super-crazy-awesome lightshow set-up that should dictate that his set follow a predetermined structure.
im going to have to agree.
It also seems like superfly setup the late night sets a little different than last year almost intentionally to prevent the dj's from spinning till dawn.
Post by johncagebubblegum on Jun 4, 2010 2:03:30 GMT -5
one of edm freaks/snobs' bigger targets as of late is deadmau5 (tiesto is still #1 obv; he's just too fun to hate). as one of these people, i kinda get it, but i also kinda disagree. i don't read the coachella boards, but i'm pretty sure i know what they're saying.
why i kinda get it: deadmau5/joel has gotten a pretty big ego for someone who really doesn't do anything innovative. the big time hype he's gotten has elevated him to tiesto-ish popularity, and i imagine he's attracting some of the same type of crowd. i dunno firsthand; he was probably just beginning his big rise the last time i saw him live. it's actually almost bizarre how he's gotten so popular so quickly.
but on the other hand, there's so many djs/producers out there spreading obnoxious trash far worse than deadmau5, that i don't really get directing so much ire at him in particular. some of his early music has a humorous quality that initially got me interested, but basically he just does pretty standard electro/house. nothing particularly creative really, but fun for a night out, and it's not awful trance or the like.
i don't think he interests me enough anymore where i'd pay to go see him at a club now, but i expect to have a pretty good time at his roo set. his set will consist almost entirely of his own music, so if you're not familiar, you can always check it out and know if you'll enjoy it or not. a good portion of his coachella set is on youtube i think, so that should give you a pretty good idea.
there's so many djs/producers out there spreading obnoxious trash far worse than deadmau5, that i don't really get directing so much ire at him in particular. basically he just does pretty standard electro/house. nothing particularly creative really, but fun for a night out, and it's not awful trance or the like.
The problem is that most people don't know about all these other bad djs yet deadmau5 is extremely popular so all these newbs are deceived into thinking that this is really good edm music. If you like electro house, there's plenty of better electro house djs that make for a more fun night out, yet they're not getting half the exposure deadmau5 is. I'm talking about people like Fake Blood, Busy P, Boys Noize, Digitalism, Wolfgang Gartner, Benny Benassi, even Justice, the Beetroots and Crookers. All of them should be more popular than him. Deadmau5 is to edm, what KOL and Nickelback are to rock music.
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"We're no longer called Sonic Death Monkey. We're on the verge of becoming Kathleen Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Barry Jive and his Uptown Five. "
Girl Talk blew me away in 07, but sucked in 09. Absolutely sucked. Maybe it was the crowd.
Agreed here. We were so happy we checked out his '07 set. I saw him again in Knoxville 2 years later, and then some of his set at Bonnaroo last year. Each time I've seen him, it's seemed less and less cool.
Quack that...Girl Talk '09 was one of the highlights of 'Roo IMO. I've heard it sucked if you were in the back of the crowd or whatever, but I was right on the rail and it was epic.
"We're no longer called Sonic Death Monkey. We're on the verge of becoming Kathleen Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Barry Jive and his Uptown Five. "
The problem is that most people don't know about all these other bad djs yet deadmau5 is extremely popular so all these newbs are deceived into thinking that this is really good edm music. If you like electro house, there's plenty of better electro house djs that make for a more fun night out, yet they're not getting half the exposure deadmau5 is. I'm talking about people like Fake Blood, Busy P, Boys Noize, Digitalism, Wolfgang Gartner, Benny Benassi, even Justice, the Beetroots and Crookers. All of them should be more popular than him. Deadmau5 is to edm, what KOL and Nickelback are to rock music.
How dare people listen to music they think is good. What nerve.
Post by cornquacker on Jun 4, 2010 11:43:53 GMT -5
How dare I introduce people to several other artists that they'll probably enjoy, what nerve.
Girl Talk doesn't even do enough for me to hate him. He admits himself that he's not a DJ. He just does some fun mashups that are good to get drunk and dance to if there's no other live music around.
How dare I introduce people to several other artists that they'll probably enjoy, what nerve.
Girl Talk doesn't even do enough for me to hate him. He admits himself that he's not a DJ. He just does some fun mashups that are good to get drunk and dance to if there's no other live music around.
Introduce away, you're right people will appreciate that. Just don't be a summers breeze and snub other acts that people like while you're doing it. Your opinion is just that - your opinion.
"We're no longer called Sonic Death Monkey. We're on the verge of becoming Kathleen Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Barry Jive and his Uptown Five. "
Post by cornquacker on Jun 4, 2010 12:03:46 GMT -5
The reason I'm snubbing Deadmau5 is because he's really not that good. I assume you know a thing or two about rock music. Say someone has only listened to hip hop their whole life and KOL is the first rock band they ever heard. They're also one of the most popular rock bands right now. They've never heard any of the older rock legends so they assume KOL is really great. That's what's happening here with Deadmau5.
I already listed quite a few electro house acts and (considering you like Deadmau5) I'm sure you'll like most of them. I forgot to include Tiga and Simian Mobile Disco, they makes some great electro house. If you're into drum n' bass at all, Dieselboy is a legend in the genre and he's playing the Lunar Stage on Thursday night.
After coming back from DEMF, debating the merits of deadmau5 and girl talk is pretty hilarious. I'm not trying to be a snob, I'm just trying to open your eyes to the history of electronic dance music and how those two are footnotes at best. The KOL comparison is very accurate.
Post by beaucaldwell on Jun 4, 2010 12:56:00 GMT -5
Deadmau5 is bad and Girltalk is good? ha!
quit trying to to sell me on girl talk (not even a musician and hardly a producer) over someone who actually spends incredible time producing his own stuff using very innovative and unique methods. Girltalk jacks other peoples crap and makes it sound like garbage, I see more "newbs" (not that it makes any bit of a difference it what is good or bad) listening to his crap than Deadmau5...
I just don't understand some of you... Get off your high horse. You don't like him, we get it, but don't slam other people like you know what's best for them. Listen to and enjoy wtf ever you want people, it's music... If you don't like Deadmau5 don't go to his show, your loss!
Post by beaucaldwell on Jun 4, 2010 13:02:06 GMT -5
im not making fun, im pointing out facts.
Fact: He doesn't produce Fact: He doesn't play any type of instrument Fact: He jacks other peoples stuff for everything he does Fact: More people listening to Girl Talk are newbs, Deadmau5 has been producing for over 10 years.
quit trying to to sell me on girl talk (not even a musician and hardly a producer) over someone who actually spends incredible time producing his own stuff using very innovative and unique methods. Girltalk jacks other peoples crap and makes it sound like garbage, I see more "newbs" (not that it makes any bit of a difference it what is good or bad) listening to his crap than Deadmau5...
I just don't understand some of you... Get off your high horse. You don't like him, we get it, but don't slam other people like you know what's best for them. Listen to and enjoy wtf ever you want people, it's music... If you don't like Deadmau5 don't go to his show, your loss!
quit trying to to sell me on girl talk (not even a musician and hardly a producer) over someone who actually spends incredible time producing his own stuff using very innovative and unique methods. Girltalk jacks other peoples crap and makes it sound like garbage, I see more "newbs" (not that it makes any bit of a difference it what is good or bad) listening to his crap than Deadmau5...
I just don't understand some of you... Get off your high horse. You don't like him, we get it, but don't slam other people like you know what's best for them. Listen to and enjoy wtf ever you want people, it's music... If you don't like Deadmau5 don't go to his show, your loss!
Being the author of that post, I'm fairly certain I know exactly what I said. Is there something specific you are trying to point out that I havn't already addressed?
You can't say you weren't bashing Girl Talk when you say "it sound like garbage", refer to his fans as "newbs", and call his music "crap." So yes you were making fun of Girl Talk and yes your post was hypocritical.
P.S. I agree that Girl Talk is pretty bad but Deadmau5 isn't much better.
You don't like him, we get it, but don't slam other people like you know what's best for them. Listen to and enjoy wtf ever you want people, it's music... If you don't like Deadmau5 don't go to his show, your loss!
Dude, you don't get it. If you like Deadmau5, you most likely recently got into edm. That's a completely reasonable assumption. There are many other good artists in the same genre as him that these fans of his have probably never heard of so I'm listing them.
I don't know if I've ever seen someone so opposed to introducing other people to music. Like r said, your whole post was completely hypocritical because you're slamming Girl Talk.
You don't like him, we get it, but don't slam other people like you know what's best for them. Listen to and enjoy wtf ever you want people, it's music... If you don't like Deadmau5 don't go to his show, your loss!
Dude, you don't get it. If you like Deadmau5, you most likely recently got into edm. That's a completely reasonable assumption. There are many other good artists in the same genre as him that these fans of his have probably never heard of so I'm listing them.
I don't know if I've ever seen someone so opposed to introducing other people to music. Like r said, your whole post was completely hypocritical because you're slamming Girl Talk.
Where in anything I've ever posted did I oppose people to other music? I dare you to prove this claim...
Assumption wrong buddy, I'm not new to edm. The whole point of this is your saying that oh just becuase someone likes so and so they must be a newb... incorrect. and yes, there are more newbs at girltalk because i see nothing but 13 year olds at his shows. That isn't bashing, that is yet another fact. Just because you hate the facts doesn't mean I'm hypocrytical.
And yea, maybe you have a point with me calling his so-called music garbage, but here's the thing. ITS NOT HIS MUSIC! You're prasing someone so highly that does nothing, yet bashing someone who is actually talent and makes his own shit.
Again, there are other artists out there, but that doesn't make him crappy. Just because he knows how to market himself and people like him doesn't mean he is bad.
Girl Talk doesn't even do enough for me to hate him. He admits himself that he's not a DJ. He just does some fun mashups that are good to get drunk and dance to if there's no other live music around.
I'm praising Girl Talk so highly?!?! You have the worst reading comprehension skills I've ever encountered. I said if there's ANY other live music playing anywhere nearby, you should watch that instead of Girl Talk.
You're not new to edm but you like Deadmau5? Wow, that's a first.