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Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
I got patted down on the sides and on my hips dangerously close, but not quite, to my crotch area and I made it known that it was NOT cool and gave them a few choice words. I personally think that they should have female security guards patting down females...not only for our comfort, but for them it can be be a liability as well. It was not the norm for that to happen all weekend. It was proably just one kanye of a dude.
I did come accross a security guy who was on a HUGE powertrip though who I wanted to Ann Coulterslap. He was literally making everyone empty every nook and cranny of people's bags and yelling at people.
Most people were doing there jobs correctly but you can't really blame Bonnaroo for a few bad apples who take advantage of the teeny tiny bit of authority they are granted. That is just what happens. If you get screwed over or treated badly make it known then and there when it happens. Waiting until Bonnaroo is over to try and write letters to Rolling Stone and whatnot is passive aggressive. If you want action the best route to take is to complain onsite. I can totally understand the email though dreamingtree. My husband was a bit pissed when they patted me down near the netheregions.
Blah blah blah...man I am so f-ing sick of seeing posts from people viewing previous Bonnaroo's through their precious rose colored glasses. I was at those Roo's too my friend, and they were not so different than Bonnaroo today. You just enjoy remembering them as this bohemian utopia where no-no-words were free, and all the wookies smelled like flowers because it allows you to complain about "the man" and how AC has sold out. Their were dicks on the security squad in the early years too, just as their are now. If you didn't ever tangle with them, lucky you...but they were there.
Anyway, someone else already pointed out the fact that is really at the heart of this discussion - you CONSENTED to the search. The literature doesn't say you will subject to a handshake and a friendly pat on the ass, it says you are subject to a FULL SEARCH. You don't get to define what that word means. If it was THAT bad you had the right to complain at that time, or NOT to consent by not getting in line. I'm sorry you apparently somehow wound up with the jerks frisking you every time you went in the gate, but that's the luck of the draw. Bitching to the media doesn't do anything except draw negative attention to the fest. If you want to send your letter, send it to AC...no one in the media is going to give a crap.
To any ladies to go patted in the crotch or chest, I hope you complain because THAT is disgusting, inappropriate and absolutely should NOT go unmentioned.
I don't recall my post specifically complaining of searches, and to say '09 Bonnaroo is no different than '02 or '04 , really?
Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
Eek, nope! I mostly wore dresses (and one tutu!) this year so no patdowns. A couple of my dresses did have pockets but they were the really loose type of pockets and it would have been obvious if I had anything in there so they didn't have to check. The one time I went through wearing shorts the guy just kinda patted me around the hips. And that was what I encountered every time in 07 when I was wearing shorts every day.
My patdowns were when I was wearing a dreses w/o pockets and not carrying anything....not a bag, water, nothing.
Blah blah blah...man I am so f-ing sick of seeing posts from people viewing previous Bonnaroo's through their precious rose colored glasses. I was at those Roo's too my friend, and they were not so different than Bonnaroo today. You just enjoy remembering them as this bohemian utopia where no-no-words were free, and all the wookies smelled like flowers because it allows you to complain about "the man" and how AC has sold out. Their were dicks on the security squad in the early years too, just as their are now. If you didn't ever tangle with them, lucky you...but they were there.
Anyway, someone else already pointed out the fact that is really at the heart of this discussion - you CONSENTED to the search. The literature doesn't say you will subject to a handshake and a friendly pat on the ass, it says you are subject to a FULL SEARCH. You don't get to define what that word means. If it was THAT bad you had the right to complain at that time, or NOT to consent by not getting in line. I'm sorry you apparently somehow wound up with the jerks frisking you every time you went in the gate, but that's the luck of the draw. Bitching to the media doesn't do anything except draw negative attention to the fest. If you want to send your letter, send it to AC...no one in the media is going to give a crap.
To any ladies to go patted in the crotch or chest, I hope you complain because THAT is disgusting, inappropriate and absolutely should NOT go unmentioned.
I don't recall my post specifically complaining of searches, and to say '09 Bonnaroo is no different than '02 or '04 , really?
You complained of it being a POLICE STATE, we all assumed you meant searches. Were they making you take a loyalty oath or something?
In the past they had trough water stations by almost every area of toilets, not a ten minute walk. Second we did not receive a map or schedule upon arrival on Thursday and were told all weekend to keep checking back at the info tent, only to be told on Sunday that there were never any more guides coming!
I didnt receive a map or a schedule, I printed my own or asked someone to look at theirs. and whats a ten min walk at Bonnaroo? I have been in BFE all 3 times I went GA and been in VIP twice. A ten minute walk to anything would be much appreicated after my GA experience. Seems you didnt prepare yourself well enough and since you say this isnt your first Bonnaroo, you shoulda been prepared for those types of things.
Post by bjoyce7412 on Jun 17, 2009 17:49:58 GMT -5
I saw a guy take all his no no words that were in bags and hold them in his hands while getting patted down so on that note I would like to say security was not that bad im sure not everyone got it easy but thats how it is, some cars get searched some don't its just the luck of the draw. The guy checking cars asked me if it was my first year I said no 5th and he was like ohh so you know what not to bring i said ya and he didn't even look in my car.
Dude, security was a complete non-issue this year. Really. I mean, I'm sorry that anybody had problems, but to say there was heavy security makes me wonder if we attended the same festival. That was a lax as lax gets....
I don't recall my post specifically complaining of searches, and to say '09 Bonnaroo is no different than '02 or '04 , really?
Yea man, really. The main differences between those Roo's and Roo today is that today it's bigger, MUCH more organized, cleaner and more smoothly run with many, many, many more amenities, ways to keep comfortable and different things to do.
With all these changes has come a slight up-tick in security, but the early 2000's just simply weren't the 1970's love-fests that some people like to make them out to be.
"We're no longer called Sonic Death Monkey. We're on the verge of becoming Kathleen Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Barry Jive and his Uptown Five. "
I was also a little pissed about the info guides. We had 5 in our car and they gave us 1. They said to check the information tents and they laughed when we asked for more.
I would like to preface that this comment is not about females being inappropriately searched that is fucked up.
If you are getting searched every time you are going into centeroo YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. Just think about how tired and sore you get when standing in the sun and heat all day at Roo, now imagine doing that without the enticement of the amazing experiences of Bonnaroo. Add to that you have to deal with thousands of people who are pissed off at you for doing your job.
Every time I went into centeroo I took everything out of my pockets before hand and if I had a backpack on put it on backwards and opened the pockets. Then when I got to the guard I politely said hello and asked how they were doing. I hardly was ever searched any more than I quick pat of my pockets. By Saturday they weren't even checking if my 2 liter canteen was empty. Granted there was no point when I was trying to smuggle anything in so maybe that makes me less biased against the security.
I was also a little pissed about the info guides. We had 5 in our car and they gave us 1. They said to check the information tents and they laughed when we asked for more.
Ha! That really sucks! They must have been running really low when ya'll went through b/c it was just two of us and we each got one.
Post by spacedoutokie on Jun 18, 2009 1:58:30 GMT -5
To the original poster, I'm sorry your parents kept you in a bubble, and I'm sorry your so diluted that you think major media outlets give a crap about your vague "open letter". I'm sorry you've never been to a show before, because anyone on here can testify that a search at a punk/metal show is much worse than anything I saw over the weekend.
If you want to see a "Police State" watch the videos from RATM live at the DNC.
To the girls who got inappropriately touched.... It really makes me sick, if i'd of seen any women raising hell about it I would of raged.
Thank you for the most oppressive, fascist, police-state of a festival. Your security was abusive, violent, preformed occasional illegal acts, violated people right to privacy and dignity, and at all times made me feel like a criminal. I broke no laws at Bonnaroo, but for the low, low price of $250 I was treated like nuts. My girlfriend was "searched" so hard that she bruised an ovarian cyst, a pain worse than LABOR! I was repeatedly fondled, interrogated, intimidated, and verbally harassed by heavy-handed security guards. You can forget about seeing this three-time Bonnarooer again unless you make a public promise to treat people who have or potentially have committed victim-less crimes with dignity and respect, and immediately pursue legal action against those staff who assaulted attendees at Bonnaroo 2009. You are two steps away from having a full blown Altamont on your hands. Feel lucky that this law student was not personally or physically assaulted by your staff. Beyond that, I arrived at 10 am, waited for 7 hours, and was forced to camp 20 minutes from water and 30 minutes from medical assistance. Additionally, there was no road into our campsite because your workers parked cars in it. You did a poor job of executing the festival this year, and if I were in power at your organization, heads would roll.
Thanks for listening, Paul Heinemann Indianapolis, Indiana
dude you need not totalize the experience of like six people and apply them to the whole festival. Even you know you went two other years and still continued to go. We dont know the situation for some of these acts. Also if you read your ticket waiver, you give up certain rights to privacy that america holds so dear, yet are at the root of many many problems. If i see anything in NYT, CNN or any other new media outlet, i will find you, and verbally destroy you. Lame ass first year law school, bonnaroo hating chump. You are gonna be a Summers breeze coporate lawyer for rich CEOs who steal from the poor. Good luck hating and destroying society! I also agree with the person about fondling. If its in appropriate and wrong than DO SOMETHING. dont bottle it up all weekend and then write a letter that essentializes the experience of Rooers. In my life, whenever i saw injustice, i did something even if it required violence. Physical and sexual violence against women is wrong and if you just watched it happen and only spoke against it, then you contributed to it happening. The fact that you only care about your personal self is F***ed up. I am glad you like to hide behind your computer because that means you will never have any real power and just continue being an arrogant ignorant selfish slut. F*** YOU
Eek, nope! I mostly wore dresses (and one tutu!) this year so no patdowns. A couple of my dresses did have pockets but they were the really loose type of pockets and it would have been obvious if I had anything in there so they didn't have to check. The one time I went through wearing shorts the guy just kinda patted me around the hips. And that was what I encountered every time in 07 when I was wearing shorts every day.
My patdowns were when I was wearing a dreses w/o pockets and not carrying anything....not a bag, water, nothing.
Ew, I got the pat-down too. And it was the one time that I walked in without any type of purse or bag (and I'm really clean-cut looking, not that it should matter, but I think it does anyway). I had on a short, tight skirt, and a tight tank-top, so I don't know what this groping loser thought he would find, but it was really disgusting. My only major complaint about bonnaroo.
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Thank you for the most oppressive, fascist, police-state of a festival. Your security was abusive, violent, preformed occasional illegal acts, violated people right to privacy and dignity, and at all times made me feel like a criminal. I broke no laws at Bonnaroo, but for the low, low price of $250 I was treated like nuts. My girlfriend was "searched" so hard that she bruised an ovarian cyst, a pain worse than LABOR! I was repeatedly fondled, interrogated, intimidated, and verbally harassed by heavy-handed security guards. You can forget about seeing this three-time Bonnarooer again unless you make a public promise to treat people who have or potentially have committed victim-less crimes with dignity and respect, and immediately pursue legal action against those staff who assaulted attendees at Bonnaroo 2009. You are two steps away from having a full blown Altamont on your hands. Feel lucky that this law student was not personally or physically assaulted by your staff. Beyond that, I arrived at 10 am, waited for 7 hours, and was forced to camp 20 minutes from water and 30 minutes from medical assistance. Additionally, there was no road into our campsite because your workers parked cars in it. You did a poor job of executing the festival this year, and if I were in power at your organization, heads would roll.
Thanks for listening, Paul Heinemann Indianapolis, Indiana
RIGHT ON!!!! I saw many people being treated unfairly for no reason. I had one dumb phuck who question me about a bead necklace I was holding in my hand. Too many issues to list this year.
Thank you for the most oppressive, fascist, police-state of a festival. Your security was abusive, violent, preformed occasional illegal acts, violated people right to privacy and dignity, and at all times made me feel like a criminal. I broke no laws at Bonnaroo, but for the low, low price of $250 I was treated like nuts. My girlfriend was "searched" so hard that she bruised an ovarian cyst, a pain worse than LABOR! I was repeatedly fondled, interrogated, intimidated, and verbally harassed by heavy-handed security guards. You can forget about seeing this three-time Bonnarooer again unless you make a public promise to treat people who have or potentially have committed victim-less crimes with dignity and respect, and immediately pursue legal action against those staff who assaulted attendees at Bonnaroo 2009. You are two steps away from having a full blown Altamont on your hands. Feel lucky that this law student was not personally or physically assaulted by your staff. Beyond that, I arrived at 10 am, waited for 7 hours, and was forced to camp 20 minutes from water and 30 minutes from medical assistance. Additionally, there was no road into our campsite because your workers parked cars in it. You did a poor job of executing the festival this year, and if I were in power at your organization, heads would roll.
Thanks for listening, Paul Heinemann Indianapolis, Indiana
RIGHT ON!!!! I saw many people being treated unfairly for no reason. I had one dumb phuck who question me about a bead necklace I was holding in my hand. Too many issues to list this year.
Did he ask you why you were holding it while you were walking through security or out in the campgrounds....because either instances I can see where its warranted. If your walking through the gates with it, someone may think you are trying to smuggle something in. If you are walking around the campgrounds someone may think your are selling them. And did it really inconvenience you to tell him/her what you were really up to?
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 18, 2009 9:08:30 GMT -5
A lot of people lay the blame on Bonnaroo when really it's the individuals who went overboard and/or took advantage of their small amount of power. The checks that are being reported as being "fondling" or over the line are sad, but it's not 100% Bonnaroo's fault. It's individuals that abuse the system. Similar to if a NYC cop guns down an unarmed civilian.......it's not the NYPD that's to blame but the individual that did it.
Granted Bonnaroo hires security groups, and the security groups seem to have hired a few bad eggs.....but overall the security problems seem to be low with a portion of the attendees having complaints. I'm sorry for anyone that had problems and these problems really should try to be wiped out in the future......but to blame just Bonnaroo and the organizers is a bit much. In every line of work there will be dickkheads and a$$holes so I didn't expect all the workers from the security companies hired to work music festivals to be 100% innocent angels.
Hopefully they learn to hire more professional people in the future........but I didn't have any problems with staff/security all week at Roo.
Post by SuzieSunshine on Jun 19, 2009 14:37:22 GMT -5
wow - I can't believe that people thought security was bad. I never got patted own once - I was wearing bathing suits and skirts most of the time though. The search of my bag entailed the guard tapping the bottom and asking if i had beers (which I did and it was obvious). In addition to the 5-6 beers in my bag I also have tons of other assorted goodies and paraphenalia. Not once did a guard open any pockets or look in my wallet or cigarette pack.
I was in the pit for an early show on Saturday and was smoking joints against the front railing as the guard that was within arms reach of me stared straight ahead. At one point two guards came into the pit so we put it out. After about 5 minutes we lit it back up (security still in the pit about 10 feet away) and had NO problems at all.
Maybe i was at a different festival than the people that had trouble. Or maybe its because of the "Free Blowjobs" shirt I had on.
Dude, security was a complete non-issue this year. Really. I mean, I'm sorry that anybody had problems, but to say there was heavy security makes me wonder if we attended the same festival. That was a lax as lax gets....
This.
I'm sorry about any girls that got fondled also.
I always went into the lines with the girl security (very few unfortunately) but they never fondled me.
Post by bonnaroodavid on Jun 19, 2009 16:05:00 GMT -5
I got fondled a little too at least twice going on. Both by the same guy, so my fault for going to the same guy twice. And my buddy had to get rid of some of his bottled water (they said only 2 per person), but I got right through on that day with little searching. So, as usual, it depends on the person you get working the line.
is this thread really still popping up with new posts? damn, let it fall through the cracks, this just makes for bad news.
(by the way, every time I encountered 'security' I had no problems and it was really pleasant. They had some really nice people working the fest this year.)