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Yeah, since we're all going to Bonnaroo we should not discuss anything other than rainbows, unicorns and Phish.
Can't we have any fun?
I stand by my claim, worrying about swine flu is like worrying about bird flu, Y2K,Mad Cow Disease, or the virus in Resident Evil. It's just a news story perpetuated by news stations for ratings."Do you want to know the secret to keeping you and your family safe from Swine Flu, tune in at 11:00 to find out." I'm not saying it's meaningless that all these people died, but it seems like we're over reacting to this and causing more stress for ourselves than we need to. We don't even know what this is yet, or it's full effects, so why don't we hold off on raiding our local grocery stores.
You're saying we shouldn't be doing something that noone is even doing. Noone here is in a panic or stressing, just discussing. Noone has said anything about wanting to run to the grocery store or anything like that. I agree it is typical of the media to blow such things out of proportion, but just because they do that doesn't mean there is never any reason to discuss an issue. And merely having a discussion is not the same as stressing out - they aren't even related in my mind.
I also read "will it have an impact" to mean an impact in many ways, not just Bonnaroo. Either way, I think it's an interesting topic and I don't find it overly alarmist, jus mis-forumed, and everybody does that from time to time.
Viva la Catfish of Doom!
Of course, he has made it clear that he meant "impact on Bonnaroo" with his later posts in this thread.
But really the only thing I'm worried about is that catfish growing legs. If it does, we're all in trouble.
so why don't we hold off on raiding our local grocery stores.
Oh hell no. I plan on running to my local store and buying up all the milk and bread I can get my hands on. Then I am buying up all the Tamiflu.
Actually, I am a pharmacist, that works in a grocery store, so I have all of the above covered. And I give flu shots. So if they get a vaccine for this sucker, I want all of you to line up and drop your pants. ;D
Um why are you making people take off their pants for a shot in the arm?
Be it a bummer or what, but I found a specific reference to Bonnaroo under regional and county plans for dealing with flu pandemic. Under "Regional Health Department Pandemic Planning Guidance Coffee County...
II) Discretionary Gatherings
Discretionary public gatherings of >100 persons may be included for cancellation during a pandemic wave in the county or if noted in a neighboring county. The Coffee County Mayor or designee will contact county and city officials and they shall communicate the closure to the public utilizing public media.
Very large discretionary public gatherings of >10,000 persons may be subject to cancellation during a pandemic, even in the absence of disease activity in the county where the event is held (e.g., Bonnaroo)."
Post by viciouscircle on Apr 26, 2009 20:31:48 GMT -5
(closing eyes tightly and trying as hard as I can) I will not post that zombie hippie is redundant. I will not post that zombie hippie is redundant.I will not post that zombie hippie is redundant.
I stand by my claim, worrying about swine flu is like worrying about bird flu, Y2K,Mad Cow Disease, or the virus in Resident Evil. It's just a news story perpetuated by news stations for ratings."Do you want to know the secret to keeping you and your family safe from Swine Flu, tune in at 11:00 to find out." I'm not saying it's meaningless that all these people died, but it seems like we're over reacting to this and causing more stress for ourselves than we need to. We don't even know what this is yet, or it's full effects, so why don't we hold off on raiding our local grocery stores.
You're saying we shouldn't be doing something that noone is even doing. Noone here is in a panic or stressing, just discussing. Noone has said anything about wanting to run to the grocery store or anything like that. I agree it is typical of the media to blow such things out of proportion, but just because they do that doesn't mean there is never any reason to discuss an issue. And merely having a discussion is not the same as stressing out - they aren't even related in my mind.
When you say something like "Will Swine Flu have an Impact" in a Bonnaroo forum, it makes people look twice. People have already said they are worried, words like alarming have been thrown around. It seems like worrying to me. And if people weren't stressed about it, why would someone take the time to make a thread highlighting why this could effect Bonnaroo and the rest of the world?
Besides most of what I posted was making light of a serious issue and over exaggerating in order to not just have the same boring discussion like "Yes, this could really have an effect on us, I'm worried about driving to Tennessee in June" Or "No this could not effect us, here's why." And look it has worked! There's pictures of zombies, I win.
Um why are you making people take off their pants for a shot in the arm?
That is where I give all my flu shots. That's the right place ain't it?
I give the shots in a small room, and I had a young fellow start to drop his drawers once. I corrected him quickly, but he was cute, so maybe I should not have.
Really I just don't think it is going to be anywhere near as bad as people think even if it is a pandemic. The reason the 1918 strain was so bad, is that it actually killed via a secondary pneumonia before antibiotics were available. The flu sucks but I don't see that 10% of the population getting a mild flu in a first world country is going to effect Bonnaroo.
Post by viciouscircle on Apr 26, 2009 20:39:04 GMT -5
I guess you and I just think differently. It is not automatically stressful to me to think about something. One is an intellectual process, the other is emotional, and for me they do not always coincide.
And when there are pictures of zombies involved, I think it's safe to say EVERYBODY wins.
Really I just don't think it is going to be anywhere near as bad as people think even if it is a pandemic. The reason the 1918 strain was so bad, is that it actually killed via a secondary pneumonia before antibiotics were available. The flu sucks but I don't see that 10% of the population getting a mild flu in a first world country is going to effect Bonnaroo.
It becomes a national health problem if thousands of Roogoers become infected, even mildly, then return home, to work, to school, scattered across the country, well within the 7-day infectious period.
Be it a bummer or what, but I found a specific reference to Bonnaroo under regional and county plans for dealing with flu pandemic. Under "Regional Health Department Pandemic Planning Guidance Coffee County...
II) Discretionary Gatherings
Discretionary public gatherings of >100 persons may be included for cancellation during a pandemic wave in the county or if noted in a neighboring county. The Coffee County Mayor or designee will contact county and city officials and they shall communicate the closure to the public utilizing public media.
Very large discretionary public gatherings of >10,000 persons may be subject to cancellation during a pandemic, even in the absence of disease activity in the county where the event is held (e.g., Bonnaroo)."
But you also already said this doesn't apply in this situation. I mean, I can find all sorts of emergency procedures that might apply if some emergency were to potentially possibly maybe happen. But people would be right to call me a Debbie Downer if I did.
If there's something we can do to prevent this, then by all means let us know. Otherwise you are creating a thread to make people worry for no reason at all.
It becomes a national health problem if thousands of Roogoers become infected, even mildly, then return home, to work, to school, scattered across the country, well within the 7-day infectious period.
Yeah, and if an earthquake occurs under Bonnaroo, we're all screwed. And if a meteor hits Bonnaroo, we'll be flat.
Sorry, but this is not at all an intellectual process, as viciouscircle called it. And it's not helpful in any way.
Really I just don't think it is going to be anywhere near as bad as people think even if it is a pandemic. The reason the 1918 strain was so bad, is that it actually killed via a secondary pneumonia before antibiotics were available. The flu sucks but I don't see that 10% of the population getting a mild flu in a first world country is going to effect Bonnaroo.
It becomes a national health problem if thousands of Roogoers become infected, even mildly, then return home, to work, to school, scattered across the country, well within the 7-day infectious period.
Well if it is already a pandemic then by definition it is already scattered across the country. It is not like Bonnaroo is going to be ground zero for Captain Tripps or anything. I think it is a factor, but honestly I feel you are overhyping a event that is most likely going to be a mild flu variant in a different season than usual. Everyone has been freaking lately and the newss outlets are not helping much, but the reality is that in America a virus that goes after a younger crowd is not going to be fatal very often. To make the assumption that it is going to be a devastating pandemic and cause Bonnaroo to be canceled based off of a couple of thousand cases in Mexico is pretty alarmist.
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I am proud of my SK reference btw ;d
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Be it a bummer or what, but I found a specific reference to Bonnaroo under regional and county plans for dealing with flu pandemic. Under "Regional Health Department Pandemic Planning Guidance Coffee County...
II) Discretionary Gatherings
[...]
Very large discretionary public gatherings of >10,000 persons may be subject to cancellation during a pandemic, even in the absence of disease activity in the county where the event is held (e.g., Bonnaroo)."
Yeah, but you also already said this doesn't apply in this situation. I mean, I can find all sorts of emergency procedures that might apply if some emergency were to potentially possibly maybe happen. But people would be right to call me a Debbie Downer if I did.
If there's something we can do to prevent this, then by all means let us know. Otherwise you are creating a thread to make people worry for no reason at all.
Apparently Coffee county officials were worried enough to include Bonnaroo, specifically, in their emergency preparations for flu pandemic. I'm not trying to be a worrywart. But, emergency actions are being implemented by our government, now, as we speak. And, Coffee County has pandemic flu procedures that address Bonnaroo. At a minimum, the potentially possible has increased, ever so slightly. There's no call to disregard or ignore the possibility, especially if the chances of occurrence are increasing.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 26, 2009 21:10:09 GMT -5
Were those pandemic preparations made for this swine flu? If not, then there's every reason to disregard or ignore the possibility until someone who knows what they're talking about says otherwise.
Post by viciouscircle on Apr 26, 2009 21:11:16 GMT -5
According to the Mexico numbers, the fatality rate there is ~5%. What I find kind of amusing about that, and here is where media hype comes in I think, is that there are all kinds of mentions in the news about how the CDC is mystified or baffled by the way the Mexico strain has been so much more severe. Well, there are only 20 cases here so far, and since statistics play out evenly over larger quantities rather than smaller, there's no real reason to have expected even one death here at this point. I'm assuming the professionals at the CDC are capable of basic math, so that alleged confusion on their part seems like something wholey invented by the media.
Until they get a sense of the degree of exponential spread per infected person, and they have no idea right now, there is no way to guess what will happen in June. I think it's good for people to be calmly prepared - learn the symptoms, if you feel any of the symptoms, stay home. Get the meds if you need them. Don't get all touchy feely with lots of random people, mainly because that's creepy, but also because of germs. On the other hand, it's hard going straight back to work after Roo, and I would probably be ok with getting a MILD case of it there if it meant I was ordered by the federal government to quarentine myself at home for a few days. Extra vacation time and sympathy - what's not to like?
On the other hand, it's hard going straight back to work after Roo, and I would probably be ok with getting a MILD case of it there if it meant I was ordered by the federal government to quarentine myself at home for a few days. Extra vacation time and sympathy - what's not to like?
Refreshingly rational response. Hope there's a Roo to go to.
Don't you all see? This is clearly just a way to distract us all from the upcoming announcement of Zeppelin on the Byrne Stage. Geez, open your eyes, folks. ;D
Were those pandemic preparations made for this swine flu? If not, then there's every reason to disregard or ignore the possibility until someone who knows what they're talking about says otherwise.
"The plan is based upon a pandemic of the severity of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic." Which was a H1N1 virus, the same characterization as that causing concern today.