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Post by bluecadet3 on Oct 28, 2008 21:58:37 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but there is movie out called HYPE: The Obama Effect . It's produced by the conservative group Citizens United Productions. We just had a showing in the movie theater at work at in Cincinnati, Ohio tonight. I watched about 2 minutes of it and walked out in disgust. All the movie contains are right-wing conservatives voicing their opinions about all of the questionable aspects of Obama's life without diving into any of the political issues that this election should be about. It sickens me that groups, whether left-wing or right-wing, publish this kind of garbage to sway voters. But here is the website if anyone is interested to if it is playing in a theater near you. www.hypemovie.com/index.html
Obama canceled a planned rally in Madison last week, and I don't think he's coming back. In place of a rescheduled Obama rally, we get a free Wilco show with speakers Russ Feingold & Tammy Baldwin. Which I can live with. Unfortunately, Wilco sold out a place twice as big as the free show venue in 10-15 minutes last year... and my shift at work starts a half-hour before distribution begins. Grrr.
Random question: is it just because of my particular location, or has anyone else observed a notable decline in the number/proportion of McCain ads? I know the RNC withdrew their funding from Wisconsin, but I'm pretty sure that isn't accounting for the entire decline I've seen these past couple weeks.
McCain has actually started advertising in TN (or at least advertising enough to where I just saw my first ad.) Though TN will almost certainly go McCain, his lead has dropped from 20+% to around 12-14%. I think McCain is starting to get a little worried about every State.
Post by bluecadet3 on Oct 29, 2008 10:18:07 GMT -5
I saw a statistic that Obama ads outnumber McCain ads in Ohio about 2:1. And I have definitely seen more ads supporting the democrats in Ohio than the republicans in almost every political level this year.
I was talking to a guy from the DCCC who is working in Minnesota and he said that it's ridiculous out there. Hard to find a non-political spot.
I'll second that, but almost all of the spots are for the Norm Coleman/Al Franken senate race, I haven't been overwhelmed with the presidential race ads. Then again, maybe I'm just thinking that because the senate race ads have been far nastier than the presidential ones. Here's my favorite so far...
Why is it that a Senator on the campaign trail who gets a $400 haircut is branded an out-of-touch elitist.... but a Governor who buys a $150,000 wardrobe and a $53,000 makeup kit on the campaign trail is a down-to-earth hockey mom?
How can someone possibly align themselves with hardworking, middle class Americans, when, in the midst of a global economic meltdown, they spend more on makeup than what most people earn in a year?
Why does seven-year-old Piper get to prance around with an $800 Louis Vuitton bag, while many, many hardworking Americans can't afford to pay their bills and provide food for their families?
How can someone honestly claim to understand the plight of the middle class when they're losing loads of money, and then go around and spend so recklessly?
The hypocrisy sickens me.
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So, anyone else worried that the whole race thing is going to come up when people actually vote, and Obama wont get the numbers we're seeing now?
I just pray for an overwhelming victory, enough that it wont matter if the ballots are messed up in Ohio or if Florida is too close to call. I'd actually like to know who my President is on Tuesday night.
So, anyone else worried that the whole race thing is going to come up when people actually vote, and Obama wont get the numbers we're seeing now
I was actually reading up about Obama and the Bradley Effect recently, just because I'm very interested in both politics and human psychology... I definitely think that a lot people - especially folks from the older generations - will tell their friends they're going to vote for Obama, but won't be able to bring themselves to do it when they're standing in the little booth at their local voting precinct.
Maybe it's pride, or fear, or just something that has been ingrained in their mindset all their lives that's difficult to change.
However, I also think that some other people will be voting for Obama because of his race, and not his stance on the issues. I was listening to a funny/sad clip from Howard Stern a few days ago that touched upon this... they sent someone from the show up to Harlem to interview people on the street about who they were voting for, and then that person would subtly test the interviewee to see if he/she actually knew what they were talking about. The typical clip ran like this:
Howard Stern interviewer: Who are you going to be voting for this election? Harlem resident: I'm voting for Obama. Howard Stern interviewer: And is that because he's for the war in Iraq, or because he's against abortion? Harlem resident: Umm, a bit of both, you know. Howard Stern interviewer: And what don't you like about McCain? Is it because he believes gays should have the right to get married? Harlem resident: Yeah, I think marriage should be between a man and a woman.
And so on and so forth. The one guy they put on air who said he was voting for McCain actually listed some of Obama's policies when they interviewed him - go figure.
I wonder if there will be any of the opposite. People who are afraid to admit that they don't agree with the Republicans anymore, or who live in a more racist community but aren't themselves. They'll say McCain, but secretly vote Obama.
^^I think we will in fact see somewhat of a reverse Bradley Effect^^
I live in Alabama and I am a Defense Contractor. As I talk to some of my colleagues, they talk trash (and rightfully so) about McCain and Palin. However, when I ask them who they will vote for, the answer 9 out of 10 times "I'm not sure".
Yes, I am in Alabama and there are bigots here, but I think Obama is actually bringing people together and that is a beautiful thing to watch.
My grandmother is voting for Obama, and trust me... THAT IS HUGE!! (But she won't tell anyone but me)
I was talking to a guy from the DCCC who is working in Minnesota and he said that it's ridiculous out there. Hard to find a non-political spot.
It's like that here in Florida too. This is certainly a battleground state. The Obama ads outnumber the McCain ads by about 4 to 1 around here. But I get them both. And all the crap I get in the mail is ridiculous. I get multiple political mailings everyday.
There aren't any really big local races, but I do get some ads for Rep Tim Mahoney, who was elected in '06 after Mark Foley had his congressional page scandal. That's shaping up to be an interesting race. It's not my district, but I'm close enough that it's the same tv channels.
I was actually reading up about Obama and the Bradley Effect recently, just because I'm very interested in both politics and human psychology...
I'm putting in a plug for David Canon's book on the race/elections subject. It was a textbook for his Legislative Process course my final semester. He did some intensive research on electoral behavior/results and lots of interviews, focusing primarily on North Carolina. If you can get past the number-heavy parts, there's some interesting stuff in there. The Bradley Effect is mentioned in there for a while, as he compares his findings to other theorists' proposals on the subject. www.amazon.com/Race-Redistricting-Representation-Unintended-Consequences/dp/0226092712/ref=sr_1_3/183-3403907-6783219?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225461767&sr=1-3
Finally got a chance to see Obama in the flesh. He just wrapped up a speech here in Des Moines. Unbelievable! It's amazing to actually see a statesman again, instead of the Howdy-Doody poop we've had for the last eight years.
So, anyone else worried that the whole race thing is going to come up when people actually vote, and Obama wont get the numbers we're seeing now?
I just pray for an overwhelming victory, enough that it wont matter if the ballots are messed up in Ohio or if Florida is too close to call. I'd actually like to know who my President is on Tuesday night.
I'm worried that Obama's election numbers will be less than they are now, but for a different reason. I'm worried about Obama getting lower numbers because of the youth vote. I suspect that 18-34 demographic is most likely to say they'll vote and then not do so. Especially since so many of us operate under the assumption Obama's going to win this. That's certainly not an incentive for turnout, and I guess that's the root of what's got me worried.
Did anyone else hear this already? I'm surprised I didn't catch this until today...
Which begs the question: will bin Laden speak up between now and Tuesday? He released a video less than a week before Election 2004, and that probably worked in Bush's favor.
I'm not a McCain/Palin supporter per se, and I'm not trying to campaign for them, I just wanted to share a thoughtful piece that presented a differing view.
And re: the race issue, I wouldn't worry. The Bradley Effect, as it is called, has pretty much been debunked. Any difference in the actual votes due to something like that will be negligible.
Post by crazykittensmile on Nov 3, 2008 0:08:00 GMT -5
my brother and i stood in line for 4 and a half hours to vote today. believe it or not, it was really cool. a very rewarding voting experience! here are some pictures:
arrival, 2pm "this doesn't look so bad..."
"um, nevermind"
2+ hours in
...but still smiling!
hours later, on the last leg... (it's very dark out now!) doesn't everyone look happy, though? amazing
the end (well, after i filled out all the rest, of course )
Not sure of all of you heard but Obama's Grandmother died a few hours ago. Sad, she raised him and was a big part of his life but was unable to make it a few more hours to the election.