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Hopefully this can help solve the heat issue and make the festival more safe
There is no reason that this should not be done. Feel free to sign the thread and hopefully with enough signitures some will take notice. Also all opinions are welcome.
I know this is not likely to happen but it is worth a try.
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I totally agree that it would be less hot and some other problems may be helped by your suggestion but I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why they don't change the date. We just don't know about them. A lot of thought and planning goes into this and there are so many factors that we just know nothing about because we aren't behind the scenes with the festival.
I'd be surprised if they change the date. It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing in my eyes....but it'd still be surprising.
It would suprise me as well but the festival has to address the heat issue. To me this is the best way to do it. With the deaths this festival has experienced and the number of heat related medical issues if they don't do something drastic then nothing will change. Roo came out with the statement that safety is their number one priorty and if it is they should take a hard look at changing the dates. If it can save even 1 life then it is way worth it. I know planning a festival is hard but our lives are more important than them having to go through planning issues.
Post by waitingfornextyear on Jun 15, 2011 10:25:46 GMT -5
My thoughts are these: Is two weeks before really going to make that much difference in temperature? Also, I watched the weather in the area for a month leading up to the festival. A LOT of rain. I think they have it as early as they can without it being 4 days of monsoons. If they were going to change it, I think it would have to be drastically, not just a few weeks difference. I don't really know Tennessee weather that well, but I would guess it doesn't start cooling down till after school starts again.
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It is not going to happen, first off the weather is more or less the same, secondly most teachers are either just getting out of or still in school, and thirdly that is not when they have a permit. Like I have said before Bonnaroo is rough, try hangout, or Lolla, or Gathering of the Vibes if it is too much for you.
The festival will probably be held June 14-17 next year so it would be 3 week difference this coming year and I think we would see a difference
I live in Nashville, and the only way it will be cooler is if it rains all the time. Hot is hot regardless of everything else and we start getting that way by mid may unless we are constantly stormed on.
It would suprise me as well but the festival has to address the heat issue.
I am not sure what makes you think they HAVE to do this after ten years I am pretty sure by now most folk know it is hot.
While you are petitioning make bonnaroo a safer place, why don't you petition for all activities to cease, and centeroo to close at 11pm nightly? Oh, then we could petition for no outside alcohol, that would make it safer too! After that, we can petition for no tobacco products to be allowed, god knows we don't need anyone dropping dead of emphysema on the farm!
We might as well petition AC Entertainment to eject anyone who appears to be having fun.
Also consider that moving it to another time may not be good for Coffee County. Depending on their public school schedule, the kids could still be in school, and if I were a public official, there's no way I would allow Roo to happen when school was in session. Trying to get school buses in and around that mess would be a horror.
The weather is a gamble. Yes, it was cooler a few weeks before Roo. But we also had 80 to 90 degree weather in April. It's just the way it works around here. The past two years have been pretty hot, but think about the other years: were they as hot? NO!
The fact that people know it is hot has not prevented tragedy from occurring. They Have to address the heat issue because they are averaging 1 death per year which is way higher then any other festival. So something has to change. Changing the date is one way to do that.
I did not know Sasquatch was the same weekend so maybe I should change the name of the thread. It doesn't have to memorial day weekend but this idea should be considered
Also consider that moving it to another time may not be good for Coffee County. Depending on their public school schedule, the kids could still be in school, and if I were a public official, there's no way I would allow Roo to happen when school was in session. Trying to get school buses in and around that mess would be a horror.
The weather is a gamble. Yes, it was cooler a few weeks before Roo. But we also had 80 to 90 degree weather in April. It's just the way it works around here. The past two years have been pretty hot, but think about the other years: were they as hot? NO!
I agree with alll of the above. They have become a staple festival in June and there is no way now they are going to move the date after they just had their first sell out in a few years. I am sure they are thinking if it isn't broke don't fix it...or at least don't mess with the formula that much.
It is not the only issue but most of all the medical issues are heat related. I know other their are other factors we can't discuss but that will never change cause people will get that stuff in the festival regardless. But changing the date is something that could eventually be done.
Hate to tell you, but is was hotter than hell here Memorial Day weekend. And guess what? High today is in the 80's. Mother Nature is a B!tch. She will screw you every chance she gets. And I say that with love.
It is not the only issue but most of all the medical issues are heat related. I know other their are other factors we can't discuss but that will never change cause people will get that stuff in the festival regardless. But changing the date is something that could eventually be done.
Ok, here's the deal. Do you go to Florida and complain about how hot it is?? No. Why? Because it's the South. It gets hot here. End of story. Having the festival in another month isn't going to help much, unless it's in December. I don't know how to stress this to you guys. It's hot here about 8 months out of the year.
It is not the only issue but most of all the medical issues are heat related. I know other their are other factors we can't discuss but that will never change cause people will get that stuff in the festival regardless. But changing the date is something that could eventually be done.
It was as hot or more so at Hangout, most Southern festivals will be hot. Honestly I think the biggest problem is the crowds. People like to hurry up and get to a show so they can be on the rail. At that point they will not leave for several several hours so they can stay up there. It is crowded, and hot, and there are the "other" issues in place as well. In fact almost all deaths at Bonnaroo I know of have happened at night when the temperature is 70 or so. Moving it to a earlier weekend may make YOU more comfortable, but I doubt it is going to do a lot to prevent deaths.
That being said, I have no problem with you starting a petition to get it moved to an earlier date. Please keep in mind that I have to ask off from work in December, so have it settled by then. Thanks.
If the heat were the ONLY factor then I would agree.
But it's not. So lets not pretend it is.
Quoted for truth.
What does bonnaroo have to gain from changing the dates? Of all the death's that occur at bonnaroo, how many do you think are well beyond the festival's control? It will always be that way, always.
If you really feel this strongly about it, don't come next year. Whatever you do, you need to accept that bonnaroo doesn't HAVE to do anything.
They already have a lot of acts booked a year in advance, so don't count on it.
This won't help either, petition for more shade and mist tents. Petition for more access to water and free snacks. That will help, moving the date a few weeks won't.
It is not the only issue but most of all the medical issues are heat related. I know other their are other factors we can't discuss but that will never change cause people will get that stuff in the festival regardless. But changing the date is something that could eventually be done.
As others have pointed out....changing the date doesn't guarantee that it will be less hot. It's really too hard to determine how the weather will be so far in advance. I personally don't live down there so don't know the temperature in the off season but a few that do are making it seem like it could potentially be the same or even worse.
Just playing devils advocate here: What if Bonnaroo moved the date to a few weeks earlier and it ended up being really, really hot and there were a few deaths (more than usual). Can you imagine the Leno that Bonnaroo would get for that? People would be complaining "Why did they move it!?!!"
I think the best thing Roo can do is to continue to improve on the shade areas (something they've been improving but there's always room for more) and maybe add even more water stations. Personally, I bought a lot of water because it's much colder, quicker, and I don't mind spending a few bucks for that refreshing feeling. It also couldn't hurt if they were more aggressive in warning people about the heat and dangers (like Scrog and some others have suggested).
Your heart is in the right place and it's a decent suggestion. Just don't know if it would definitely solve the problems.
...petition for more shade and mist tents. Petition for more access to water and free snacks. That will help, moving the date a few weeks won't.
This...I've mentioned in another thread that I strongly believe that as a community we have a lot of power that we should leverage. With that power comes the responsibility to act reasonably & ask for things that will actually make a difference.
I used to live in Nashville - unless Bonnaroo is moved to a much earlier month (which is probably not going to happen), moving the date will not make a difference.
Spreading awareness about what we put in our bodies, hydration, as well as improving the conditions for shade and respite from the sun/heat seem more likely to make a difference.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 15, 2011 11:40:02 GMT -5
I feel like Roo does a good job of warning people, but I guess it should be even more. I mean, the roo handbook has a good writeup about warning people about being safe (I'll have to check it again when I'm home).
They also had these on Roo's facebook, main page, and twitter, etc.:
Sometimes people just aren't looking into the thing they are going to enough. I know when I started to go to Roo I wanted to know all the details so I could be prepared.
It was sooooooo much hotter last year. And as so many people have said, this whole Bonnaroo is really hot thing isn't new... the festival has been going on for ten years now and each year is more or less the same temperature wise give or take 5-10 degrees.
It is much more reasonable to petition for many other things. People keep saying that Bonnaroo needs to inform people about the conditions, but the thing is, THEY DO. It's on their website under the "what to bring" section AND under the "camping" section. Not to mention that there are options to get a hotel and do day parking. They could use a few more mist tents, or just shade tents. However, this year, they DID add a shade structure (which is like a band-aid for a bullet wound, but still they are at least trying) and more water stations. People say that it takes forever to fill your water, but I used to station by the which stage and never waited in more than a 2 minute line, and the pressure was amazing. It filled my camel back in about 5-10 seconds. It might not have been filtered, but again, if it's between my water tasting a little sulfuric or me DYING, I'll gladly taste the sulfur.
Perhaps what needs to be done is education on safe partying. I know that Bonnaroo says that they are a strict no drugs festival, but the fact is that they KNOW that people take drugs, and they should have some sort of information as to what exactly you need to do to stay safe if you ARE going to choose to take drugs. For instance, I don't think kids understand that when you consume MDMA, it uses up a LOT of your body's hydration, and that is before even account for the fact that it makes you dance/sweat your ass off. You seriously need to at least double the already very large amount of water that you'd drink at roo if you are going to be "rolling." I personally don't take any sort of drugs during the day at Bonnaroo just to play it safe, because then I'm more awake and ready for the LNs anyway. But even so, they just need to really stress that it should not be a four day balls to the wall party.
So, what I'm saying, is if you're going to put all this effort into making a petition to improve Bonnaroo, make it a petition for something realistic. The fact is, they are NOT going to change the time of the year they have the festival. EVER. They may move it back a week or ahead a week but that wont change the temperatures at all. What they could do is force you to read something before you buy your ticket informing you of the typical Bonnaroo conditions, or hand out pamphlets on safe partying and alcohol/drug use with your booklets. There are endless things they could do to make the festival a little bit safer, but they will not change the time of year they have it.
Also consider that moving it to another time may not be good for Coffee County. Depending on their public school schedule, the kids could still be in school, and if I were a public official, there's no way I would allow Roo to happen when school was in session. Trying to get school buses in and around that mess would be a horror.
The weather is a gamble. Yes, it was cooler a few weeks before Roo. But we also had 80 to 90 degree weather in April. It's just the way it works around here. The past two years have been pretty hot, but think about the other years: were they as hot? NO!
I hadn't though about the issues surrounding public schools and the county. Those are very valid points - Roo, after all, is located in a city. They likely would balk at any move to the spring for traffic-related reasons.
